tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post1672585767306363387..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: For confused beltway typesLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-55063872704135931962009-09-17T18:26:33.150+12:002009-09-17T18:26:33.150+12:00And don't forget Andrei, they'll only go a...And don't forget Andrei, they'll only go after the poor farmers in NZ, they won't really go after their commie brethren in China.MathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-55623671051485597142009-09-17T06:48:56.948+12:002009-09-17T06:48:56.948+12:00ZT - I was more critiquing the emotional imagery, ...ZT - I was more critiquing the emotional imagery, but the message is obvious. I don't disagree with the subsequent points made by yourself and Andrei.Seánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00105226003936491432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-25722924413004328582009-09-16T14:14:20.927+12:002009-09-16T14:14:20.927+12:00Methane is already part of Kyoto and our ETS and w...Methane is already part of Kyoto and our ETS and will be part of any future agreements too. <br /><br /><i>Since the first seed was sown, farming practices have been improved. This article highlights that - and it was all discovered without a need to tax methane directly.</i><br /><br />Sure, and I wish the ideologues behind the organic movement would realise that obvious fact. But why will farmers take up methane reducing measures if there is no incentive?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-42027911191994513402009-09-16T13:54:41.158+12:002009-09-16T13:54:41.158+12:00Hah! That's funny. Seems to also point out th...Hah! That's funny. Seems to also point out that a methane tax cannot be far away after the carbon tax settles in. <br /><br />That is, if China ever sign on to paying a tax. <br /><br />Which is perhaps another pertinent point.<br /><br />Since the first seed was sown, farming practices have been improved. This article highlights that - and it was all discovered without a need to tax methane directly.ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-53113191161584469112009-09-16T13:43:54.043+12:002009-09-16T13:43:54.043+12:00Nobody is claiming that rice paddys = pollution
...<i>Nobody is claiming that rice paddys = pollution </i><br /><br />As ever, <a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=22878" rel="nofollow">so well informed</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-79001440184955503302009-09-16T13:18:08.638+12:002009-09-16T13:18:08.638+12:00Sean, I agree that there are vast stretches of cou...Sean, I agree that there are vast stretches of countryside in China, in spite of the 1.3 billion Chinese people living there. It would look most photogenic.<br /><br />I think I concur with Andrei's point though. The photogenic NZ farm land is what we are being castigated, and financially penalised for and the amount of industrial pollution we generate is quite small.<br /><br />On the other hand, it is no surprise that China is now the world's largest polluter and yet, there are no financial penalties for them as yet.<br /><br />The point seems valid to me.<br /><br />I guess for the future we could also look to India, as they will soon be the most populous country.ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-91655371624857638102009-09-16T12:38:41.925+12:002009-09-16T12:38:41.925+12:00Nobody is claiming that rice paddys = pollution Se...Nobody is claiming that rice paddys = pollution Sean.<br /><br />They are however claiming that Dairy Farming does and that it is in fact New Zealand's biggest planet wrecking activity. <br /><br />Dairy farmers to be penalized accordingly.<br /><br />Actually its even weirder than that, the taxpayer is going have to pay the pollution penalty initially.Andreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536593172412406428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-50605668760314996142009-09-16T12:28:03.033+12:002009-09-16T12:28:03.033+12:00Of course you could also post photos of a quiet pa...Of course you could also post photos of a quiet paddy field in the vast Chinese countryside vs some factory in an industrial part of any NZ city, but don't let that get in the way of a good story.Seánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00105226003936491432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-53361334847705408312009-09-16T11:25:58.209+12:002009-09-16T11:25:58.209+12:00Amount China pay under Kyoto Stage 1: NIL (Exempt)...Amount China pay under Kyoto Stage 1: NIL (Exempt)<br />Contribution to pollution: World's largest polluter.<br /><br />Amount NZ Pay: $Huge<br />Contribution to pollution: negligibleZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.com