tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post2330029012217245239..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: Nuns are brought into the burka debateLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-90479691497100541552011-07-16T06:38:40.837+12:002011-07-16T06:38:40.837+12:00Hi Lucyna - I would like to point out that I agree...Hi Lucyna - I would like to point out that I agree with both the content and intent of your post. <br /><br />But I would like to digress a bit from the first external quote you make. <i>"...But when we see a Muslim woman who is covered – it is associated with terrorism and oppression."</i><br /><br />I am not sure how true this is, probably not much, but I would like to state that if a Muslim woman wants to wear this garb then this is a personal choice I can respect. Of course, this cover private and general public environments, but it is important to note that in our Western society the wearer must be aware of the local customs and traditions which do not normally include the wearing of such attire. What this means is that our society is not used to such attire, but it is not just about clothing, but moreso the covering of the face. So when such a person enters a interactive situation like a job interview, or court appearance, they would do well to become aware of the local customs and adjust accordingly. To expect the local society to naturally and automatically accommodate their non-local customs is just plain unreasonable. <br /><br />The opposite is true of course in that (Western) foreigners must at least understand and respect the local customs of the (non-Western) society they enter, but it would also be nice for that society to respect the wishes of the foreigner in a private capacity.<br /><br />The reasons for giving a nun the respect mentioned you have covered already. It is less to do with the dress, and more to do with the practice. But back to the quote it would be foolish to automatically associate a Muslim woman in her local dress with terrorism and oppression; it's naive in fact. We should allow her the freedoms we offer in our society, but conversely she needs to be aware of the cultural norms present and adjust accordingly. It's by making efforts to fit in to the new society that makes their presence all the more accommodating.Seánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00105226003936491432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-26178682353164775772011-07-13T09:07:21.564+12:002011-07-13T09:07:21.564+12:00Interesting comments in that first quote.
I was r...Interesting comments in that first quote.<br /><br />I was recently listening to a series of interview with a fellow called Abdul Saleeb entitled "The Dark Side of Islam".<br /><br />He pointed out every time Christianity goes back to it's roots, society becomes more peaceful and caring. When Islam goes back to it's roots, it becomes more oppressive and violent.<br /><br />http://www.ligonier.org/learn/series/dark_side_of_islam/scrubonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13832170298477290478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-47958517915400253522011-07-13T09:06:02.453+12:002011-07-13T09:06:02.453+12:00"It's not just a choice, it's a lifel..."It's not just a choice, it's a lifelong commitment..."<br /><br />Or at least until they stopped making wearing the habit compulsory. It's amazing how many nuns switched back to civvies when the chance arose. I'm not questioning their devotion, by the way, just pointing out that many nuns clearly didn't see the wearing of the habit as a "lifelong commitment".Bearhunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06927373498537533968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-20759336501267446282011-07-11T19:44:40.398+12:002011-07-11T19:44:40.398+12:00That news item the link points to is propaganda, n...That news item the link points to is propaganda, no less.<br />Surely nobody could in all honesty conflate a nun's habit with the compulsory full-face covering of some islamist sects?KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.com