tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post2723319739124852707..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: Victims of NZ LabourLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-18347320298965405652008-03-05T12:50:00.000+13:002008-03-05T12:50:00.000+13:00Yes, we do blame them. Who put on the pressure to ...Yes, we do blame them. Who put on the pressure to bill welfare beneficiaries for a proportion of their legal aid? No lefties on this planet, I can tell you that - for the obvious reason that such measures are bound to cause undeserved hardship, as seen in this case, and for the other obvious reason that public servants will do their absolute best to avoid enforcing it, also as seen in this case. Shame on the govt for giving in to that pressure.Psycho Milthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00779500926576047736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-63730654193811930152008-03-05T11:59:00.000+13:002008-03-05T11:59:00.000+13:00Good rant PM.I do like the way a request to be tou...Good rant PM.<BR/><BR/>I do like the way a request to be tough on crime results in Labour deciding "rednecks" want to bill victims. Brilliant. <BR/><BR/>It's a bit like the IRD writing to investors of Blue Chip and letting them know that not only may they lose their fortunes as BlueChip looks shakey, but IRD is sending them tax bills for extra payments even if they lose their fortunes, in the event they decide the Blue Chip investments are to be taxed differently. Ouch. <BR/><BR/>It's a bit like that widow being paid out 90 grand or so for her husband's asbestos related death, and then 12 months later demanding the money back because they decide $10 a week is the way they should pay her (and she was 80). <BR/><BR/>Bad legislation, hit first and apologise later and tough on the wrong people.<BR/><BR/>The left have never listened to the redneck arseholes, they just blame them. Nine years in government, it's on their heads.ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-60919377045291243572008-03-05T09:54:00.000+13:002008-03-05T09:54:00.000+13:00The 'lighten up, it's only politics" attitude is e...The 'lighten up, it's only politics" attitude is either dishonest or conveniently stupid.<BR/>It's politics which dictates how much of our own money we get to keep, how our kids are educated, how free we are, among other things. There's no such thing as <I>only politics.</I><BR/>I suspect it's only politics for lefties when this bunch of leftist thieves and liars are caught with their grubby paws in the till, caught out imposing their Marxist shit on NZ society.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-977482093598967012008-03-05T09:46:00.000+13:002008-03-05T09:46:00.000+13:00No. Angry, yes--corruption and sleaze tend to have...No. Angry, yes--corruption and sleaze tend to have that effect on me, regardless of the flavour of politicianKGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-53781805177543259352008-03-05T06:45:00.000+13:002008-03-05T06:45:00.000+13:00KG: this comment I made over at the Standard is re...KG: this comment I made over at the Standard is relevant here:<BR/><BR/><I>Lighten up, they’re just govts. I’ve lived through two 9-year National govts in my adult life, and both of them made the current Labour govt look an unprecedented and outstanding success. Don’t you think you’re getting a little overwrought?</I>Psycho Milthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00779500926576047736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-31102860884636530052008-03-05T05:49:00.000+13:002008-03-05T05:49:00.000+13:00"It's all National's fault, even if Labour are cor..."It's all National's fault, even if Labour <I>are</I> corrupt and incompetent National may not be any better and besides National may not fix whatever's wrong anyway because they may become corrupt even if they're not corrupt yet and besides if workers have been screwed over comprehensively by Labour that's no excuse to kick them out....blahblahblah..."<BR/>Is getting a bit bloody tired.<BR/>If corruption, general sleaze, a lying PM and utter contempt for the rights of citizens aren't sufficient reason to vote a government out, then exactly what would be?KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-85124149727223227942008-03-04T22:23:00.000+13:002008-03-04T22:23:00.000+13:00Hi PMFirstly, let me say the whole post was in [ra...Hi PM<BR/><BR/>Firstly, let me say the whole post was in [rant] blah blah [/rant] mode, a bit like sarcasm and satire modes, but with that cool, edgy sense of outrage. You can almost feel the steam venting...sweeet.<BR/><BR/>Now what exactly did you mean by this: <EM>Given that this was a right-wing fantasy</EM><BR/><BR/>because Annette King certainly seems to be on the same trip, swearing to fix the legislation that Labour passed in 2000, err, 8 years ago now. Roll on amendments to the EFB...<BR/><BR/>Yes, it is a well known fact governments are crap. And its also becoming a well known fact that the government is being directed by an even crappier gang of MPs that can't write good legislation and ensure good governance to save themselves.<BR/><BR/>Remember Te Wananga? 500 million dollars wasted over 3 years and Labour saying "we were just about to investigate the alarming increase in grant money over the long period...gee we'll sack the boss and put in some crown controllers at millions of extra tax dollars to sort this out,...<BR/><BR/>so its no surprise that they are repeating their past mistakes in the way they are handling the DHBs and even the airport sale.<BR/><BR/>How do I expect things to change? A focus on meeting absolute core "service levels" such as making sure serious crimes are up before the judge in a timely manner. A focus on governance, so that Te Wananga and the DHBs and the Job Jolt program and the hip hop tours and the leaky homes fiasco and the Transpower overseas investments through the Caymen Islands trust accounts etc all get trapped, reviewed and sorted well before the wheels fall off.<BR/><BR/>Labour have lost it, and even if the incoming mob don't do any better, that's still not a good enough reason to put up with Labour.<BR/><BR/>Am I expecting any better? Well, after Cullen's move today, I'm tending to think "yes".ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-80436148138571630002008-03-04T20:34:00.000+13:002008-03-04T20:34:00.000+13:00In Praise of ZenTiger<A HREF="http://nominister.blogspot.com/2008/03/in-praise-of-zentiger.html" REL="nofollow">In Praise of ZenTiger</A>Seánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00105226003936491432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-47599498299549782572008-03-04T19:17:00.000+13:002008-03-04T19:17:00.000+13:00Like being billed $20,000 in legal fees as a resul...<I>Like being billed $20,000 in legal fees as a result of your partner being murdered by an early parolee?</I><BR/><BR/>Given that this was a right-wing fantasy, blaming it on Labour is a bit rich. <BR/><BR/>It's a well-known fact, govts are crap. Unfortunately, no matter who we vote for, govts always result. Admittedly, some are crapper than others, but are you seriously expecting a better performance from the next lot of cheapjack hustlers(TM) we put on the treasury benches, Zen?Psycho Milthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00779500926576047736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-50535567829022197142008-03-04T15:30:00.000+13:002008-03-04T15:30:00.000+13:00A website for victims is a very good idea.. it wil...A website for victims is a very good idea.. it will help them accept that the State pays $50,000 to the average crook to help him/her mount a defence for their crimes.<BR/><BR/>The average victim gets, er, $29.50 each to help with rehabilitation from the effects of the crime.<BR/><BR/>JCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-9991922071741305542008-03-04T02:00:00.000+13:002008-03-04T02:00:00.000+13:00Que?Que?ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-81257967359131912372008-03-04T01:09:00.000+13:002008-03-04T01:09:00.000+13:00Nice, ZenTiger. Perhaps HoS "Blog of the Week" for...Nice, ZenTiger. Perhaps HoS "Blog of the Week" for two weeks in a row?!!?Seánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00105226003936491432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-76120420902422993022008-03-04T00:50:00.000+13:002008-03-04T00:50:00.000+13:00How about ensuring justice for the victims so they...How about ensuring justice for the victims so they never have to whine about it to anyone? How about giving people the means to defend themselves so they don't have to become victims and then won't need to call some useless number to waste even more time?<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah, without the above, there wouldn't be much need for these Labor parasites to, manage, administer, screw up, hold an inquiry into and pour more money into would there.MathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.com