tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post3536172734943627750..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: Tricky issues of linguistics and church burningsLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-59836731314742641712010-01-10T13:58:14.301+13:002010-01-10T13:58:14.301+13:00Well, that changes things!Well, that changes things!Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-5298705434741327292010-01-09T21:43:15.094+13:002010-01-09T21:43:15.094+13:00Ah, so a new argument over an old custom.Ah, so a new argument over an old custom.ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-23585977167117132382010-01-09T20:16:41.776+13:002010-01-09T20:16:41.776+13:00Lucia;
I have just done some research on this
T...Lucia; <br /><br />I have just done some research on this<br /><br />The first biblical translations of the Bible into Malay go back to 1629, the first complete New Testament to 1668 and the full bible to 1733.<br /><br />In those translations Tuhan was used for LORD and ALLAH was used for GOD. Thus the LORD GOD would become TUHAN TUHAN or LORD LORD.<br /><br />Why the original Bible translators used Arabic ALLAH as instead of the Latin or Greek I can only surmise.<br /><br />But for whatever reason that was there is now well over three hundred years of its use in the Malay language for as the word understood to mean God.Andreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536593172412406428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-57611331073194868772010-01-09T19:14:46.624+13:002010-01-09T19:14:46.624+13:00This is an interesting one.
According to the Gove...This is an interesting one.<br /><br />According to the Government, the proper Malay word for God is "Tuhan", while as "Allah" is Arabic.<br /><br />Even though the reaction of the Muslims is extreme, I'd be inclined to wonder why Catholics want to use Allah in the first place. Why not Tuhan, or if that's not appropriate, then the Latin Deus? It just seems odd that they use an Arabic word.Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-63928373487366359892010-01-09T18:15:17.155+13:002010-01-09T18:15:17.155+13:00That 'religion of peoce' spreading it'...That 'religion of peoce' spreading it's own peculiar brand of love again...Oswald Bastablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11828229103486326473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-89712643380347923052010-01-09T11:27:13.408+13:002010-01-09T11:27:13.408+13:00That's actually an interesting post. Here in ...That's actually an interesting post. Here in the west we note the appropriation, evolution or alteration (call it what you will) of words to take on new meanings.<br /><br />"Gay" for example has now widely accepted (conceded?) usage, from the sterling efforts of the "pink" lobby, who also seek to redefine the term marriage to be far more encompassing than recent social custom.<br /><br />However, we haven't quite got to arguing about who can use what word, it's been more about what a particular word should mean.<br /><br />Or have we? There is the ability for a person able to use a particular slur, if they are part of that group. A white calling a black a nigger can't be done, but a black can take the term and use it almost as a badge of honour. Obviously, the original form was meant as an insult, and the current context meant as proud defiance, even as many younger people reveal ignorance over the original context.<br /><br />On <a href="http://everything2.com/title/Why+can%2527t+whites+use+the+word+%2522nigger%253F%2522" rel="nofollow">a blog</a> we see the same sentiment around Nigger, as we see around reserving the word Allah:<br /><br /><em>Why would anyone want to use the word nigger? Who cares?<br /><br />I don't understand why non-blacks get so upset when they can't have something that blacks have. You've got plenty of stuff, why can't you just let it go? </em><br /><br />A good post Andrei.<br /><br />And some useless trivia: "Nigger" has its root in Latin, "niger" meaning black.ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-47697416478560523162010-01-09T11:06:12.526+13:002010-01-09T11:06:12.526+13:00“Allah is only for us,” said Faedzah Fuad, 28, who...<em>“Allah is only for us,” said Faedzah Fuad, 28, who participated in the rally. “The Christians can use any word, we don’t care, but please don’t use the word Allah.”</em><br /><br />So the chaps are not feeling too gay about this then?<br /><br />At least they said "please". <br /><br />Others have not been so polite, with arson attempts on at least three churches so far.ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.com