tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post3558467642277093826..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: The great and enduring heresy of MohammadLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-69591864542911861722007-08-23T09:27:00.000+12:002007-08-23T09:27:00.000+12:00And Mea culpa Lucyna, I don't know why I writ Isla...And Mea culpa Lucyna, I don't know why I writ Islam as Jewish heresy at TBR. you are quite correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-10458766312949517872007-08-23T09:17:00.000+12:002007-08-23T09:17:00.000+12:00JCYes many claim him as an ancestor. Catholicism d...JC<BR/><BR/>Yes many claim him as an ancestor. Catholicism does not claim him as a founder though. That belongs to Jesus. In Catholic thought, Abraham was a prefigure of what God was prepared to do, and what his Son willingly did.<BR/><BR/>I happen to think Belloc is right. Islam is a strange synthesis of Judeo-Christian thought when you get down to it. And in being so of course it has good points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-48128244511426947292007-08-22T20:25:00.000+12:002007-08-22T20:25:00.000+12:00Without looking it up, I'm not convinced that Bell...Without looking it up, I'm not convinced that Belloc is quite right about slavery and ursury. After all, several of the first popes were slaves, and the Church had quite a good record in freeing slaves.. in a practical manner that recognised the value of slaves to the owner as well as the right of men to free will and freedom. And usury and taxation was more a temporal thing?<BR/><BR/>Muhammad worked his magic on fellow pagans, and then they took what they wanted from those that had more.<BR/><BR/>However, some of the things mentioned by Belloc got me thinking about a US humorist of some time ago. He said, that if the US wanted to be successful in Iraq, it should join the insurgents and sort out the injustices under which Iraqis had to live.. and bugger me, isn't that the guts of what the very successful Surge is doing?<BR/><BR/>And again, here's a fascinating article that shows anarchy works very well, compared to the predations of bad and corrupt government:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/2fcxnz<BR/><BR/>Christ, Muhammad and particulaly General Petraeus would have no difficulty understanding this concept of there being better alternatives than corrupt governance.<BR/><BR/>In a roundabout way, I'm suggesting that a religion, a political movement or an insurrection is most likely to succeed where the Govt or religion of the day is corrupt, and the new movement is able to tap into the dissatisfaction that has arisen. In such circumstances, genuine revelation is unecessary and more likely to be added later as a justification.<BR/><BR/>Similarly, Christianity was successful because it built on the solid rock of Judaism, as Islam built on the Rock of Peter, as Protestantism built on Catholicism.<BR/><BR/>Truly, isn't Abraham the real rock and inspiration of over half the world's population?<BR/><BR/>JCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com