tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post3957973999890885073..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: Government lies to advance wowsers agendaLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-14887677765404207772011-09-07T22:06:23.192+12:002011-09-07T22:06:23.192+12:00And when you get gross distortions like the "...<i>And when you get gross distortions like the "survey" in my post to try and make the case - I get mad</i><br /><br />The appropriate response. I think you were more accurate with the term "lie" in your post title than with "gross distortion" - this stuff is quite deliberately dishonest, so it's hard to see how any word other than "lie" should be used to describe it. It would be nice to have some journalists with bollocks at this point, to name the report for what it is.Psycho Milthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00779500926576047736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-90796558853758821172011-09-07T19:41:00.504+12:002011-09-07T19:41:00.504+12:00The point, surely, is that lying and twisting the ...The point, surely, is that lying and twisting the stats to advance an agenda is an outrage. That those doing it regard the dishonesty as being in a "good cause" doesn't make it excusable.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-40079692926916183072011-09-07T18:34:19.971+12:002011-09-07T18:34:19.971+12:00I know Lucia Maria, I know.
It is a hideously deg...I know Lucia Maria, I know.<br /><br />It is a hideously degraded culture we live in - ugly really.<br /><br />Sometimes I think we are just animals wallowing in a barnyard and that's where our elites want us.<br /><br />But banning sales of $4.99 bottles of wine at the supermarket is not going to fix it and that's a factAndreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536593172412406428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-32039478240089990402011-09-07T18:08:19.854+12:002011-09-07T18:08:19.854+12:00Andrei,
Your children have you as a parent, so th...Andrei,<br /><br />Your children have you as a parent, so they would have learned quite a lot from you about a whole lot of things.<br /><br />There must be circles where it's common, I've read it a number of times and heard various people talk about it. The most recent being a woman who was writing about 17 dates in 17 days in one of the weekend papers maybe two weeks ago, who said what Kiwi hasn't got totally drunk and woken up with a perfect stranger in bed the next morning? She's not the only one, another wrote a year or so ago that that is how many Kiwis get their partners - they find them in bed with them presumably after drinking so much the inhibitions from the previous were wiped out.Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-70969063981590178642011-09-07T17:48:45.584+12:002011-09-07T17:48:45.584+12:00The real problem with alcohol is the culture here ...<i>The real problem with alcohol is the culture here that perpetuates the idea that drinking to get drunk is normal. </i><br /><br />I wonder how common that really is? Three of my kids have made the mistake once and learned, my boy has never done it as far as I know and he is utterly contemptuous of drunkenness - mind you he holds a lot of things in contempt.<br /><br />The thing is all these measures don't achieve any thing except to hit the poor.<br /><br />People who want to obliterate themselves will find an alternative, like sniffing glue or boiling up datura etc if alcohol isn't available.<br /><br />And when you get gross distortions like the "survey" in my post to try and make the case - I get madAndreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536593172412406428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-67910085248955984572011-09-07T16:31:55.651+12:002011-09-07T16:31:55.651+12:00The real problem with alcohol is the culture here ...The real problem with alcohol is the culture here that perpetuates the idea that drinking to get drunk is normal. Even the wowsers believe this, that's why they want to clamp down on it and raise the price.<br /><br />My parents gave me small drinks of red wine mixed with ribena once or twice a year when I was a child. I didn't even start drinking socially until I was 25, and then not to get drunk, and still don't. <br /><br />The correlation with drinking when young and death is deeper than just the drink. If people are wanting to get drunk, what is so wrong with their lives that they are doing that? That's the bigger question, I think rather than the price of alcohol.Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.com