tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post4749706753725108821..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: Rescuing JesusLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-89025604725959007362011-06-09T15:15:35.501+12:002011-06-09T15:15:35.501+12:00Lucia Maria.
Just to be clear, I don't label m...Lucia Maria.<br />Just to be clear, I don't label myself as anything,(Judge not that,..etc)And putting a label on someone with that "New-Ager" tone of voice is somewhat like judging in my opinion.<br />Do I believe Jesus is God?<br />I guess John's writing sums up Jesus's status for me.<br />John 14:28 You heard me say "I am going away and I am coming back to you." If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.<br /><br />If your beliefs and traditions say differently, I'm sure you can find heaps of quotations from the Bible to support your interpretation of reality. The eyes(blinkers)we see through will always find what we need to support our beliefs.<br /><br />And when it comes to our spiritual dimensions, they are beliefs; not provable.<br /><br />And lunch was lovely - thanks for asking. :-)KiwiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03834607473566315726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-91644882776130207012011-06-09T13:47:51.116+12:002011-06-09T13:47:51.116+12:00KiwiGirl,
Just to be clear, because you are sound...KiwiGirl,<br /><br />Just to be clear, because you are sounding like a New-Ager to me, do you believe Jesus is God?Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-68352404831864888312011-06-09T13:41:33.467+12:002011-06-09T13:41:33.467+12:00Dearest Lucia Maria.
I'm delighted you can see...Dearest Lucia Maria.<br />I'm delighted you can see the light.<br /><br />Now, off to lunch.KiwiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03834607473566315726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-25202685338774753722011-06-09T12:05:24.515+12:002011-06-09T12:05:24.515+12:00Dear KiwiGirl,
Wearing blinkers does not allow yo...Dear KiwiGirl,<br /><br />Wearing blinkers does not allow you to see what truly is. It's best not to wear them.Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-76299327555602309532011-06-09T11:47:22.278+12:002011-06-09T11:47:22.278+12:00What I love about this world, Lucia, is that we ge...What I love about this world, Lucia, is that we get to choose our own blinkers. That is unless we are so indoctrinated as children we don't get to choose. And that applies to athiests, muslims, shintos, christians, et al.KiwiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03834607473566315726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-46684242102071088042011-06-09T11:40:01.054+12:002011-06-09T11:40:01.054+12:00KiwiGirl,
Catholics have a very different view - ...KiwiGirl,<br /><br />Catholics have a very different view - our nature is physical and spiritual, that is why, at the end of time we will be reunited with our bodies again. Only they will be glorified, resurrected bodies. So, while all life comes from God (who is Spirit), Jesus became a man, and is in Heaven right now as man and God.Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-54606245496824764892011-06-09T11:27:47.139+12:002011-06-09T11:27:47.139+12:00Jesus taught using parable and metaphor. His was a...Jesus taught using parable and metaphor. His was a spiritual message about our spiritual growth to understanding our eternal spiritual nature. Bodies are incidental. They just keep us anchored here.<br />Point 2: After this teaching at John6:53 many couldn't stomach what they thought was Jesus's teaching and left. They could only see the literal not the spiritual message. That's when Jesus made the comment about God enabling some to see (come to me) and others didn't get it.<br /><br />No I'm not saying anything about negating the previous teaching. Just that all teaching is open to interpretation. I guess it depends on the blinkers one wears. (and I include myself in that)KiwiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03834607473566315726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-79095768482095537842011-06-09T11:09:44.779+12:002011-06-09T11:09:44.779+12:00KiwiGirl,
I'm unsure of what point you're...KiwiGirl,<br /><br />I'm unsure of what point you're making. Are you saying that John 6:63 and 65 negate what Jesus said prior?Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-75597930405383083322011-06-09T11:02:53.375+12:002011-06-09T11:02:53.375+12:00I like the bit that comes further along from your ...I like the bit that comes further along from your quote. John 6:63."The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life."<br /><br />I also relate to verse 65. "He (Jesus) went on to say; This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him."KiwiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03834607473566315726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-24724538126455050152011-06-09T10:21:39.616+12:002011-06-09T10:21:39.616+12:00Blair,
I generally remove offensive comments with...Blair,<br /><br />I generally remove offensive comments without explanation, as I would shove an unruly guest out of the door of my house. Your comment in no way indicated you wanted a debate or even a discussion. <br /><br /><i>I find it bizarre than nobody thought to explain communion to your guests.</i><br /><br />Do you mean during the Mass?Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-67504544593403422922011-06-09T09:41:25.129+12:002011-06-09T09:41:25.129+12:00Sensitive, aren't we? I'm just trying to e...Sensitive, aren't we? I'm just trying to engage in a debate about the theology of communion. But of course, the Catholic response for about 1300 years now has never been to debate - it's always been "Rome is right, you are wrong, God says so, now shut up". And normally I would be tolerant of your beliefs, but in this case you have given a clear example of how Catholic theology made you value a mere wafer over properly introducing someone to an understanding of Christian faith. I find it bizarre than nobody thought to explain communion to your guests. Instead you have a freakout over the fate of a bit of processed wheat product at their expense. That's not right.Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865567065778234500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-35486567228704714072011-06-09T03:03:12.751+12:002011-06-09T03:03:12.751+12:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865567065778234500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-2501326096980522452011-06-08T16:33:04.128+12:002011-06-08T16:33:04.128+12:00Thanks, Fletch. It was freaky, but I tried not to...Thanks, Fletch. It was freaky, but I tried not to think too much. It helped.<br /><br />Sean, what you do is have the tip of your tongue resting on your bottom lip. That's about as far as it needs to go. If your head is tilted slightly back, it helps as well. Also, choose a position and stay like that, perfectly still so that you are not a moving target, giving a moment or two for the priest to withdraw his fingers before closing your mouth.Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-25048675168082981662011-06-08T10:39:00.382+12:002011-06-08T10:39:00.382+12:00"she received Communion with great docility o...<i>"she received Communion with great docility on the tongue (quite unusual here in NZ, most receive on the hands)."</i><br /><br />I have always received Communion in the hands but at one particular local church here in Madrid the priest always dips the Host in the wine before passing to the parishioner. So I have had to learn how to take It on the tongue. Never sure how far to stick the tongue out in case it is too much and therefore rude. Well, after receiving the Host, the mind refocusses on what is important.Seánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00105226003936491432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-76496355573505157662011-06-07T21:42:27.277+12:002011-06-07T21:42:27.277+12:00Goodness! That must have been very freaky. Good on...Goodness! That must have been very freaky. Good on you for doing what you did.I.M Fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02221772173209860714noreply@blogger.com