tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post6425463452771059683..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: Green MP to keep John Key in lineLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-50462755326870260922008-01-28T19:12:00.000+13:002008-01-28T19:12:00.000+13:00The nicest interpretation of what Sue said late la...The nicest interpretation of what Sue said late last year is that she only wanted to nail people getting off for serious abuse.<BR/><BR/>What she will not say is that there were only around 21 cases that attempted the s59 defence, and more than half failed. Of those that succeeded, we don't have readily public records for the reasons the jury made their determination - except for the riding crop case.<BR/><BR/>In that case, what the state did to the family via the CYFS is truly horrible. It didn't stop the Greens lying about the case for political ends.<BR/><BR/>Also, just before the s59 law change, some-one in the government re-opened a closed case to do with the riding crop mother and ensured the police prosecuted a matter settled a year prior with an estranged son. Again, the news inferred the case was current and that it might be the same boy (it wasn't, it was a 17 year old older son who allegedly hit his mother prior to the bit the newspaper reported.<BR/><BR/>There was deliberate twisting of information to create a justification for the bill, based on "lies and half truths" (as Jeanette likes to refer to the Brethren's fisking of Green policy). Very bad form.<BR/><BR/>Finally, I'd like to add that Sue Bradford has been caught in deliberate lies during the campaign. She claimed this bill was not about banning smacking - and now we can see the Police are acting as if this is exactly what it is about. Sue Bradford wanting smacking banned, regardless of the situation, the severity, the reasonableness of force etc.<BR/><BR/>The result is that Police have the 'right' to question 'suspects for hours on the hearsay of disgruntled neighbours. The result is the parents get a warning entered on their records - quite possibly even if they are not guilty of smacking. It depends how they react to the interrogation.ZenTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888629207437612884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-58127041974236712312008-01-28T17:57:00.000+13:002008-01-28T17:57:00.000+13:00Will Chester give Sue another kiss !!Get a backbon...Will Chester give Sue another kiss !!<BR/><BR/>Get a backbone National.dad4justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399954680761271127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-26892962252693613242008-01-28T17:18:00.000+13:002008-01-28T17:18:00.000+13:00Let me quote Sue Bradford on National Radio 21 Dec...Let me quote Sue Bradford on National Radio 21 Dec 07.<BR/><BR/>She was discussing her law.<BR/><BR/>"the Epidemic of child abuse and child violence in this country continues, sadly. My bill was never intended to solve that problem"<BR/><BR/>From her mouth she has said that her law was to criminalize good parents.Simeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00127383079542250949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-74639569411712422752008-01-28T16:04:00.000+13:002008-01-28T16:04:00.000+13:00Lookout John Boy!Big Mother is watching you!Lookout John Boy!<BR/><BR/>Big Mother is watching you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com