tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post6579156352888553668..comments2023-10-08T12:11:52.993+13:00Comments on New Zealand Conservative: Demonic activity and exorcismLucia Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-81336227289270515212012-07-28T23:33:44.360+12:002012-07-28T23:33:44.360+12:00Heh, I embarassed an atheist on Kiwiblog yesterday...Heh, I embarassed an atheist on Kiwiblog yesterday by asking him where the Bible banned gentiles from eating shellfish.<br /><br />Of course, as you and I know there is no such ban. But he missed the "gentile" part and I had to point him at Acts 15.<br /><br />Then he launched on another tack which I'd already covered by the quote...scrubonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13832170298477290478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-12652474904045508592012-07-27T14:03:44.425+12:002012-07-27T14:03:44.425+12:00Hi Chris,
Does that mean you agree with my last c...Hi Chris,<br /><br />Does that mean you agree with my last comment?Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-54056307488536665842012-07-27T13:55:52.065+12:002012-07-27T13:55:52.065+12:00Hi Lucia,
This would be a better place to start f...Hi Lucia,<br /><br />This would be a better place to start for a scriptural perspective on this (especially Fr Raymond Brown who was appointed to the Pontifical Biblical Commission by Pope Paul VI and again by Pope John Paul II).<br /><br /><i><br />For example, the world’s most influential scholar on Paul currently is E. P. Sanders. He<br />originated what is now called the “New Perspective on Paul.” In his book Paul, (Oxford University Press, 1991, 1992. Pp. 110-113), he very strongly defends the conservative position on homosexuality as he does in his other writings.<br /><br />The most celebrated American New Testament scholar is probably Raymond E. Brown. He was<br />an editor of the Anchor Bible Dictionary and was called by some America’s foremost New<br />Testament scholar. Brown is respected by both liberals and conservatives alike since he is usually seen as holding the middle ground between liberals and conservatives. But even Brown comes<br />out defending the traditional position on homosexuality (Brown, Raymond E. An Introduction to<br />the New Testament. New York: Doubleday, 1997 pp. 528-530). Brown’s article is one of the best<br />on the subject because he summarizes the positions by both sides and then explains why the<br />traditional side has more weight. <br /><br />Now Brown and Sanders are just two of the most prominent<br />scholars. There are many others who support the traditional side: R.B.Hays, N.T. Wright,<br />Coleman, M.L.Soards, D. F.Wright, Gagnon, and J.Dunn, just to name a few.<br /></i><br /><br />God BlessChris Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584323901208927740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-41051300367847200732012-07-27T13:19:40.657+12:002012-07-27T13:19:40.657+12:00Hi Chris,
Thanks for that passage. I suppose you...Hi Chris,<br /><br />Thanks for that passage. I suppose you've noticed that it tells that anything that doesn't have fins or scales in the seas should be treated as an abomination, in relation to:<br /><br /><i>Lev 18:22 You shall not lie with mankind as with womankind: because it is an abomination.</i><br /><br />Which is an abomination.Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-6311338121440519182012-07-27T12:40:29.806+12:002012-07-27T12:40:29.806+12:00Hmmmmm......
Lev 11:10:
And all that have not f...Hmmmmm......<br /><br />Lev 11:10: <br /><br />And all that have not fins and scales in the seas , and in the rivers , of all that move in the waters , and of any living thing which [is] in the waters , they [shall be] an ABOMINATION unto you.<br /><br />God BlessChris Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584323901208927740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-16657721193556682332012-07-27T10:15:04.705+12:002012-07-27T10:15:04.705+12:00LRO,
As you well know, there are a number of rule...LRO,<br /><br />As you well know, there are a number of rules on the OT that were specific to the Jews for that time period, while as there are other standards of behaviour that transcend time and place.<br /><br />The Ten Commandments transcend time and place, and so does anything classed as an "abomination". Homosexual acts (not the temptations) come under "abomination", along with bestiality (Lev 18:22-23).Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-84898509673924568822012-07-27T07:01:50.841+12:002012-07-27T07:01:50.841+12:00As for my faith, it clearly says in the Bible homo...<i>As for my faith, it clearly says in the Bible homosexuality is vile and wrong.</i><br /><br />Yes, it does. But that doesn't make you right. Why do you accept that homosexuality is wrong, according to the bible, but do all the other things it prohibits?<br /><br />Do you eat ham? You are vile and evil.<br /><br />Got a tattoo? God will condemn you to hellfire and damnation.<br /><br />Ever worked on the sabbath? You made little baby jesus cry.<br /><br />How about a seafood platter? Ever eaten oysters, squid, prawns, lobster? Bad bad boy!<br /><br />And what are you wearing? I've got on a top made of a cotton and wool blend. I hope god doesn't notice, or he might not give me that bicycle I prayed for in another thread.<br /><br />And what about the things god says you should do that you don''t? Why don't you own slaves? <br /><br />Admit it - you just use the bible to reinforce your hatred of the other, and ignore anything that you don't like. Just like all the others, you're a cafeteria christian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38893560.post-42213549297914567702012-07-27T05:29:52.269+12:002012-07-27T05:29:52.269+12:00I never cease to be amazed at the bigotry shown by...I never cease to be amazed at the bigotry shown by so called Christians filled with god's love.<br /><br />This is a classic case. D4j spends just about all his time on the interweb hurling abuse and christian love at all and sundry. Meanwhile, in the aftermath of Christchurch's earthquakes, while d4j is sucking up to god, Sam Johnson organises a volunteer workforce to come to the aid of quake victims.<br /><br />If d4j had needed help, Sam Johnson and the teams he organised, would have given that help, willingly and without any conditions attached.<br /><br />Hey, d4j, isn't it amazing what a "faggot" can do when he is filled with love for Humanity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com