At some point, no matter how much of a right people have to kill, we are as a society going to figure out that we are actually killing. To me, the rights issue is secondary. We can work out the argument to justify killing, once we work out we are killing. Face up to it guys (and gals, but not mums obviously), there is a line to draw in the sand and every day we find its moving back much earlier than "birth". No doubt it is slightly disconcerting to some that a 21 week premature birth baby can and does survive. [ Here's one! ] The line's moved back. Recent reports from the UK suggest that at 17 weeks, baby's do actually feel pain when terminated. The solution? Not a bolt of divine understanding unfortunately, but the suggestion to use an anaesthetic! Staggering. This probably doesn't make the occasion a triumphal moment for freedom as abortionists might imagine, although a large group of people seem to be certain a foetus cannot feel pain before 26 wee...