Saturday, November 8, 2008

Lucia National wins

Dragon dead. Helen about to concede.

6 comment(s):

Barnsley Bill said...

And step down as Orthodontists society spokes model..

MK said...

LOL BB.

So has she given in and walked yet or is she waiting for all the votes to be counted, perhaps she's hoping for the dead people to save her.

Good news though, i just hope it's not too late for you folks.

KG said...

Arguin with Psycho Milt over at No Minister I said (in part):
"Hopefully the next three years will see the beginning of a turnaround of NZ society from a pack of mendicants and bludgers dictating to the productive, to something resembling self-respect (not 'self esteem') based on both liberty and a concern for the less fortunate.
The two can co-exist, I believe."

And that's how this result leaves me feeling..cautiously optimistic.

Anonymous said...

"Hopefully the next three years will see the beginning of a turnaround of NZ society from a pack of mendicants and bludgers dictating to the productive..."

Hmmm, and I thought the most important issue in the NZ election was the 17,000 abortions? The curious thing about blogs like this, are the number of commenters who seem to think liberal capitalist economics are more important than life itself.

Even more bizarre, given Labour and National are both liberal capitalist parties... they really only differ on life/social engineering issues.

ZenTiger said...

Squaredrive, you are conflating the opinions of the blog authors with commenters.

Furthermore, it is quite possible to care passionately about more than one issue in life, and not all people will restrict their speech and comments to just the issue of abortion (or the dangers of nuclear energy, etc)

This morning I had a discussion with some-one on the resignation of Helen Clark. Does that mean I think Helen Clark's job status is more important than "life itself"?

Of course not. We've shifted from a Labour/Green Government to National. It's a small shift, and is not the solution to all problems, and we will have to accept that there is a lot of work ahead to improve on all of the serious issues. We can but take one step at a time.

As for prosperous nations, we often find that this gives people opportunities to better themselves, help others and better raise their families. Job security and a stable family are surprisingly simple but vital things for the whole "life itself" issue.

It is in this environment we can turn to the issues of abortion and see if we can change society to understand why it is so important to reject abortion as a solution in the first place, and in doing so, work to remove the very need for abortion. One step at a time.

Interestingly, America has taken a step in the other direction. We will have their experiences to serve as our lessons, although the lesson often comes much later than the event.

KG said...

"Hmmm, and I thought the most important issue in the NZ election was the 17,000 abortions?"

Well, good for you Squaredrive--but there are other important issues and other opinions about the best way to address them.
"The curious thing about blogs like this, are the number of commenters who seem to think liberal capitalist economics are more important than life itself."
I must have missed those comments and would be most grateful if you could point me to them. :-)

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