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Monkey With Crystal Ball

Monkey With Typewriter gazes into his crystal ball to make 10 very plausible predictions for 2009. These are equal to the calibre of predictions from our top journalists. I'm left wondering if they have typewriters too. You can go read them by following this link: Monkey Business, but that's not why I did this post.

Monkey has an interesting survey in his sidebar. I'll repeat the question here, and would be interested in any comments rational folk care to make:

Which is most likely to reduce crime?

  • harsher sentences

  • freely available contraception

  • freely available abortion

  • a stable marriage

Comments

  1. Fior waht its worth, I think in order

    1. Abortion
    2 Contraception
    3 Stable marriage
    4 Harsher sentences.

    In fact, in any scenario, harsher sentences will always be the one with least effect as the majority of "career criminals" never give any thought to the consequences. The only people deterred by harsher csentences are those already deterred by existing sentences.

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  2. I think stable marriages would have the most positive effect overall.

    I'd be surprised if there wasn't a clearly identifiable correlation between dysfunctional families and probably even (statistically) single parent families and crime.

    A recent study showed abortion may not be the great "crime reducer" liberals may think.

    One advantage on harsher sentences given to REPEAT offenders is that it would keep them off the streets longer, and again, I suspect a lot of crime is committed by people that have committed a lot of crime. So to say.

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  3. freely available contraception and
    freely available abortion are pretty much already available ... & in many cases having kids and family-splitting to maximise income and hence 'quality of life' a valuable and valued 'life choice.'

    a stable marriage is a concept of which a large percentage of potential and convicted criminals have minimal understanding and experience ... so this is not even remotely a viable option.

    harsher sentences ... yes, if the judicial process is sped up so that the punishment is more immediate and associated with the crime ... if both imprisonment and 'being in prison' are the punishment and processes are implemented to achieve this ... that there is some financial cost placed on their offending which they must 'work off' prior to release(recompense for the victim and for their keep)... that any education/training is available at the end of their sentence and that this can be made mandatory at this time - thus keeping punishment quite separate from rehabilitation.

    Yep, harsher sentences could have quite an impact on the recidivism rate.
    I am also quite sure that adding an 'Oswaldian twist,' something akin to 'three strikes (times inside)and you are out (of the breeding stakes), 'nicked,' 'Bastedballs' so to speak would also substantially reduce the number of reoffenders ... I can't really believe I said that, Christmas and all.

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  4. 1. Stable marriage(s)
    2. Harsher sentencing
    3. Contraception

    Since abortion is a crime, it cannot be included on the list.

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  5. Stable relationships without a doubt.

    Contraception and abortion are freely available now and it has little effect. Harsher sentences mostly make only harsher criminals.

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  6. a stable marriage is a concept of which a large percentage of potential and convicted criminals have minimal understanding and experience ... so this is not even remotely a viable option.

    Fair point Mojo, but I was allowing for the "wish" factor. I think stable marriages would create the best long term effect, how we get them is another matter entirely.

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  7. andy moore, look again - abortion is NOT a crime in NZ. Sorry, you don't get to force your viewpoint on everyone else.

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  8. According to the way the law is at the moment, abortion on demand is arguably illegal.

    Sorry, you don't get to force your viewpoint on everyone else.

    Is this blog, and his comment so powerful? Is your last name Mackenzie?

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  10. Hey, AC. What can I say but: Sorry, you don't get to force your viewpoint on everyone else.

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  11. Not trying to force my view on any one else, which is why I was pointing out that contrary to what Andy Moore wants, abortion is legal in NZ.

    Some people have difficulty dealing with the truth, others just censor posts they don't like.

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  12. I "censor" rudeness.

    Debate the points. Your interpretation of Andy's point was countered (explained) by my comment.

    Yet you ignore my comment and reply with an insult.

    To make it clearer:

    There is reason to doubt the lawfulness of many abortions authorised by certifying consultants. Indeed, the Committee itself has stated that the law is being used more liberally than Parliament intended.
    ~ Justice Miller, High Court Ruling discussed here

    If you think Andy stating an opinion is "forcing his view" then you, surely, by stating yours is doing the same? I do not see your point in the slightest.

    Either way, let's lift our game a little. I'll be more tolerant if you can be more civil.

    Otherwise, you are just another Fugley.

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  13. zen, what gives? First you call me McKenzie then you insult my appearance.

    I'll try to be more civil, but maybe you too?

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  14. First you call me Mackenzie

    Joke. As in the famous South African Precious.

    Then you insult my appearance.

    Nonesense. As you well know, Fugley is (or will be) an internet slang for a morph troll :-)

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