Tuesday, January 24, 2012

Andrei Well boo hoo hoo

Well good luck don't let the door hit you on the way out
An associate professor, who has worked at the university for almost 20 years, said changes to his timetable had led him to look for a job overseas.

Quelle horreur He has to take a class at 8am on one day of the week.
He would now be required to take a class at 8am and his last class that day was scheduled to start at 5pm. On another day, he had classes from 9am to 10am and then from 11am to 3pm.
Perhaps a few years working 12 hour shifts in a coal mine might bring about a change of perspective?

Source: Varsity staff angered by changes to timetables

21 comment(s):

KG said...

Pampered clowns, leeching off the public teat and very few of them have any idea of life out in the real world.

Lucia Maria said...

"The man, who did not want to be named, said that for more than five years he had been able to work "family-friendly" hours that had allowed him to drop off and pick up his children from childcare and school.

The proposed timetable would make that impossible for him to do.

He would now be required to take a class at 8am and his last class that day was scheduled to start at 5pm. On another day, he had classes from 9am to 10am and then from 11am to 3pm.

"I don't get lunch on a Thursday."

Staff were told last year family-friendly hours would be accommodated, but the request was rescinded because of concerns over creating a two-tiered system and there would be too many requests to accommodate, he said.
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I'm on the professor's side, here.

If he wanted to work in a coal mine, there is that opportunity for him and I hear it pays very well in Oz. Only problem is, that's your whole life, and forget about having much contact with your family.

There used to be this thing called slavery as well, but I don't think we want to go back to that.

KG said...

Well, as somebody who has had to change shifts, occasionally work double shifts and unexpectedly had to work late or start earlier at short notice to accommodate co-workers with children, I have zero sympathy for the guy.
Because I never noticed people with children offering to arrive early on shift so I could get off a little earlier to attend to my business for a change.
In short, those without children or husbands/wives often pick up the slack for family people and all the unavoidable problems having a family and working entails. I've seen precious little reciprocal consideration.

Lucia Maria said...

KG,

We either have a society that values families or we do not. Right now, we are moving towards the "not", and all the social disintegration that that entails.

I personally would prefer university professors to be family men and women who then would be more likely to impart a more conservative view to their students, that to the type of people that used to run NZ that don't have families, that tend to plot and scheme in order to implement greater levels of socialism.

With regards to your particular situation, isn't that because the organisations you work for are normally short staffed? While those with family sacrifice for their families, it does tend to fall to the singles and people without children to sacrifice to pick up the slack in work. Really, it should be the young people doing this, those that haven't had their families yet and are still young and energetic and keen enough to learn on the job to take on the extra work. But now they have to go and get certificates first, which is a big part of the problem, I think.

KG said...

"We either have a society that values families or we do not."
And I believe a society ought to value families.
I also believe that too many people regard it as a right to have others help subsidise (whether with tax money or concessions) their decision to have children.
If having children means taking from others then the person having them couldn't afford them in the first place. To take other people's money to fund one's personal choices is unprincipled. People make choices and they ought to be responsible for the consequences of those choices.

"With regards to your particular situation, isn't that because the organisations you work for are normally short staffed?"
I've worked for all kinds of organisations and the one you speak of is simply the most recent example. What I mentioned takes place in almost all of them.

Social disintegration is happening and will continue to happen because "families" in the sense you mean are dying out. And what's replacing them--simply people having children--won't prevent social disintegration. Rather, it will accelerate it.

Medusa said...

Oh for heavens sake, when our kids were young we had to manage childcare/school/work hours and we worked fulltime long hours and that was 20 years ago. Get off your arse and get a real job Lucia, can you do that? you have spent too long homeschooling, get back into the real world. Like many other parents, our children are academically and socially successful and have succeeded in the work force. I'd love to see how your's have turned out in 5 -10 years time.

Lucia Maria said...

Medusa,

MEOW!

KG said...

I'm always instantly wary when people speak of some "greater good" as an excuse to impinge on other's liberties.
Who gets to define the good? And who benefits?

Lucia Maria said...

KG,

In this case, I'm defining it. So, it does come down to whether or not you trust my opinion on this.

I'm not offended if you don't.

As to who benefits, we all do. But, we all need to make sacrifices as well. No good ever comes out of a pain-free existence.

I think that was your point about war on you blog a few days back - eternal peace is bad for us. We need the struggle.

KG said...

Good answer, LM.
But it's more complex than that, isn't it?
I see young..females who have done nothing but have children and they and their boyfriends (for want of a better word) don't look after them, they live off the taxpayer and smoke dope, drink and smoke... and my tax dollars--which represent hours of my life--are given to them and used to pay for the offspring's health, child-minding and myriad other things.
And I look at the dysfunctional, ignorant, violent fruits of their fleeting union and find it very, very hard to see that as in any way a "greater good".
Just the opposite, in fact.
I figure I've made enough sacrifices, and I don't believe the way society it's headed is worth making any more.

Lucia Maria said...

KG,

Yes, it is complex. Our society has gotten used to certain freedoms (sex without commitment, for example) and will not readily turn back to a more restrictive morality that would put an end to many of those single young women raising children to multiple fathers on the benefit.

"I figure I've made enough sacrifices, and I don't believe the way society it's headed is worth making any more."

Yeah, but you blog, don't you? That's pretty altruistic and through that you presumably get something back.

But, nothing can really repay real sacrifice on this earth. Ultimately, that reward is made when we die - if we choose, that is.

KG said...

The only reward I expect is two metres of earth and eternal peace. :)

James said...

Comrade Lucia Maria, socialist of the soul in her usual fine form I see....

KG said...

A comment up to your usual standard, I see, James.

scrubone said...

Like many other parents, our children are academically and socially successful and have succeeded in the work force. I'd love to see how your's have turned out in 5 -10 years time.

Well, if you take the very obvious implication that this person thinks her state-educated kids will turn out better than home school kids, one can only marvel at the ignorance of such a comment.

Medusa said...
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Lucia Maria said...

No need to be rude, Medusa. If you can restrain yourself, I will allow you to comment.

Medusa said...
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Lucia Maria said...

Stop making personal attacks, Medusa.

dad4justice said...
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Lucia Maria said...

Hi Dad, sorry I had to delete your comment. That was several personal attacks, all in one!

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