As CoNZervative points out, a mere 18 days after marriage was re(un)defined, there is a story of an Auckland man who has taken his Anglican Bishop to court because he was rejected for a priest training programme because he is in a relationship with a man.
Here is where it gets silly:
I can't really speak for the Anglican priesthood, but the Catholic priesthood is that of priest and VICTIM. A complaining victim who says he's being discriminated against, and as he was rejected because of his relationship, feels humiliation and disappointment, is not really the type of person you would want as a priest.
If he really, really, really wanted to become an Anglican priest, why not sacrifice and live a celibate life so he could do so? Then he would have shown some of characteristics that I personally would expect in a priest.
St Matthew in the City again, that liberal hotbed of discord and foment.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Given that the Anglicans can decide to go in any direction and they haven't done anything about St Matthew in the City where ordained priests are apparently public about being in same-sex relationships, then the case could easily go against the Anglican bishop. If St Matthew in the City priests can do it, why can't he?
Only problem is, it will set a precedent of state interference in the Church, and that is not good.
Related link: Homosexual rejected for priesthood speaks of humiliation ~ NZ Herald
Eugene Sisneros has described his hurt and humiliation after allegedly being rejected for a priest training programme because he was in a same-sex relationship.
A Human Rights Tribunal hearing into the alleged discrimination opened at Auckland District court today.
Mr Sisneros is taking the Anglican Bishop of Auckland to the tribunal, claiming he was barred because of his sexuality - a claim the bishop has denied, saying he was simply following the church's doctrines.
Here is where it gets silly:
Mr Sisneros said his rejection from the programme has had long-term effects.
"I am deeply affected by this discrimination as a human being. I am not equal.
"My feelings of humiliation and disappointment continue to this day,'' he told the hearing.
I can't really speak for the Anglican priesthood, but the Catholic priesthood is that of priest and VICTIM. A complaining victim who says he's being discriminated against, and as he was rejected because of his relationship, feels humiliation and disappointment, is not really the type of person you would want as a priest.
Mr Sisneros, a 38-year-old American who holds New Zealand residency, is an events coordinator for St Matthew in the City.
In 2006 he began a Bachelor of Theology degree and started signalling his desire to enter the Anglican Church's training programme for priests by writing to Bishop of Auckland John Paterson, who said there was opposition to the ordination of gay clergy.
In 2009 Mr Sisneros entered a "permanent, exclusive and stable relationship'' with his current same sex partner.
When existing Bishop of Auckland Ross Bay took over the role in 2010 he said there was no resolution over the ordination of unmarried clergy same sex relationships, so Ms Sisneros withdrew his application, he said.
If he really, really, really wanted to become an Anglican priest, why not sacrifice and live a celibate life so he could do so? Then he would have shown some of characteristics that I personally would expect in a priest.
M[r] Sisneros was rejected "by reason of the defendant not being chaste in terms of canons of the Anglican Church,'' Bishop Bay told ONE News.
That means anyone wanting to become ordained needs to be in what the Anglican Church deems to be a chaste relationship - a marriage between a man and a woman or committed to a life of celibacy.
M[r] Sisneros said he was "very disappointed'' by his exclusion from the programme and felt he had wasted six years of study towards his goal of becoming a priest.
He had "overwhelming'' support for his progress into the programme from St Matthew in the City, where ordained priests who were public about being in same-sex relationships had given sermons, he said.
St Matthew in the City again, that liberal hotbed of discord and foment.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Given that the Anglicans can decide to go in any direction and they haven't done anything about St Matthew in the City where ordained priests are apparently public about being in same-sex relationships, then the case could easily go against the Anglican bishop. If St Matthew in the City priests can do it, why can't he?
Only problem is, it will set a precedent of state interference in the Church, and that is not good.
Related link: Homosexual rejected for priesthood speaks of humiliation ~ NZ Herald