A ranting Islamist website called Ummah Pulse is carrying an article about a Jesuit attempt to "get behind the lines" of Islam in order to water down its theology.Considering that the Jesuits have been very recently admonished by the Pope to become obedient again to the Pope and Catholic Doctrine, I somehow doubt the Pope is anyway involved with what this particular Jesuit is up to.
A German Jesuit priest-scholar called Felix Koerner is helping state-funded Turkish Muslims create an "authentic" variety of Islam that can be reconciled with the modern world.
Ummah Pulse sniffs conspiracy, you’ll be shocked to hear: it reckons that Koerner is one of Pope Benedict XVI's secret agents, employing Jesuitical wiles to implement his anti-Muslim agenda.
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Islamic website suspects plot by Pope ~ Telegraph, UK
Remember 4th vow of obedience, Pope urges Jesuits
prove it's not true!
ReplyDeleteGreg, you only have to read the writings of many modern Jesuits to see that they are far more interested in appealing to the popular culture than doing what they are actually supposed to be doing. For instance, the priest involved would be better off spending his time in writing tracts to convince Muslims to convert rather than making their own religion more palatable to the world. Back when the Jesuits were formed, they trained as undercover agents to go into enemy territory to convert souls back to the Faith - they didn't try and make the religion of the other side less offensive. There is no way they should be doing that now.
ReplyDeletethe best conspiracy is the one that doesn't exist and can't be proved it doesn't exist.
ReplyDelete(c.f. Umberto Eco's 'Foucault's Pendulum')
Actually Islam can, and is, reforming itself all the time, just like other religions. And, just like other religions, thetre will be those who resist the change.
ReplyDeleteTurkey is preparing to publish a document that represents a revolutionary reinterpretation of Islam - and a controversial and radical modernisation of the religion.
The country's powerful Department of Religious Affairs has commissioned a team of theologians at Ankara University to carry out a fundamental revision of the Hadith, the second most sacred text in Islam after the Koran.
The Hadith is a collection of thousands of sayings reputed to come from the Prophet Muhammad.
As such, it is the principal guide for Muslims in interpreting the Koran and the source of the vast majority of Islamic law, or Sharia.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7264903.stm
Then, there are the Iranians standing up to the "moodesty police" and they could,do with your support.
This is the story they tell: at approximately 7 pm on Saturday, February 23, the Ershad patrol, or modesty police assigned to enforce clothing regulations, accosted and attempted to arrest a young woman at Goldis Shopping Mall, located in western Tehran, presumably because her dress was not sufficiently modest.
In recent weeks, the police squads charged with enforcing modesty have become more rigorous in their enforcement, with thousands of women detained, questioned, and arrested for violating hijab standards.
Instead of meekly submitting to her fate, the woman fought back. A young man — it is unclear whether he was accompanying her — came to her defense and joined her in fighting the police. In an attempt to subdue — and humiliate him — the police grabbed the young man and threw him into the garbage can nearby.
That was when the large crowd, predominately made up of young people, rose up against the police and attempted to liberate the young woman themselves. Faced with a full-blown riot — complete with angry crowds with garbage cans being set on fire — the frightened police jumped into the van and fled the scene, except for one unfortunate officer who was left behind. The policeman was reportedly attacked and beaten by the mob.
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/02/iranian_shoppers_vs_the_modest.php
meanwhile, head honcho christians get outraged over a silly drawing and totally ignore threats of violence and murder.
Yesterday the Vatican joined the al-Azhar university in Cairo in condemning the republication of Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard’s depiction of Muhammed with a bomb in his turban, but the Catholic state and the supreme institution of Islam in the Sunni world didn’t say a word about the foiled plot to kill Westergaard, who has been in hiding since November last year.
http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/flemmingrose/2008/02/28/the_vatican_joins_the_fight_ag.php
head honcho christians get outraged over a silly drawing and totally ignore threats of violence and murder.
ReplyDeleteGiven that Catholic nuns and priests were attacked and some murdered because of the silly cartoon, you have a bit of cheek in your phrasing.
fugly froths ; "Actually Islam can, and is, reforming itself all the time"
ReplyDeleteYes it is fugly as you know all about dad4justice@muslim.com. eh viper !!
regarding reform of Islam...
ReplyDeleteReform with reference to what?
Reformation within Christian civilization was on a co-ordinate that had the Western Church based in Rome as the origin.
Because there is no over-arching teaching authority equivalent to the Catholic Magisterium, I submit that you can only have change that is local.
"Local" in both time and place.
Consider the recent Second Vatican Council in the 1960s. What was promulgated there was adopted by all adherents because of the recognized authority of Rome.
There is no equivalent in Islam regardless of what might happen in Turkey or Grey Lynn.
fugely you're whats called a usefull idiot.
ReplyDeleteBy its own admission Islam cannot and may not evolve. Islam is by its own definition perfect and any change would make it imperfect.
This is central to the belief system of Islam.
By definition a Muslim who modifies or "evoloves" his belief system ceases to be a Muslim.
Should I use smaller words?
Murray, Islam is what, 1400 years old?
ReplyDeleteAt the same age christinity also thought itself perfect and any change would make it imperfect.
Then, along come people like Martin Luther, Henry VIII, Calvin, Wycliffe, Knox, Smythe and others. Many were killed as heretics but their work went on and christianity reformed and survived.
Islam can, and will, reform when it finds its own Wycliffe et al.
In fact, comapring histories perhaps Kamal Attaturk was Islam's Wycliffe and now they waith their Luther and Calvin.
Now,if you know something the Turks don't, why not let them know they are wasting their time?
psyco Islam has defined ITSELF as perfect. This is central to its belief system in the same why the beleiving that Jesus Christ is the son of god.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry I can't dum it down any more that.
Apparently I'm not stupid enough to communicate with lefties.