Lucyna, Thanks for the link and yes, it's hardly surprising. Robbing human rights, mass killings, prison states, the nanny state...when you look at what Marxism has been responsible for on the planet, it could be nothing but the antithesis of all that's good.
Whilst neither the USA or Australia are by any means utopia only the completely blind could in any way compare them to Stalinist Russia where millions lost their freedom and lives.
point taken. I didn't notice President Bush ordering the killing 10 million of his own citizens. Care to provide proof to the contrary? I suspect your notion and my notion of human rights are quite different. USA is the nanny state? Provide proof, and recall that here in NZ our state provided a model of what a nanny state is by outlawing correction of children by their parents. And are you an American? Think first before...I'll leave you to fill in the gap.
But let's go back to China and the old Soviet Union. I presume because you are silent on the conduct of these countries you do not disagree that Marx and his satanic beliefs are dangerous for humanity? If not, why not?
"thanks for the link and yes, it's hardly surprising. Robbing human rights, mass killings, prison states, the nanny state...when you look at what Marxism has been responsible for on the planet, it could be nothing but the antithesis of all that's good."
Only Marx wasn't actually responsible for any of the authoritarian regimes concocted in his name. Marx's vision of communism was a stateless egalitarian society, it was more like a kind of communal anarchy than the oppressive regimes that get labeled as "Communist" today. The idea of a "Communist state" would have been an oxymoron to Marx. Orthodox communism is more like "State Capitalism" or "State Socialism"
RE:satanism. You might be interested to know that Anton Lavey (a satanist author) openly states that objectivism (the "philosophy" a good portion of libertarians follow) is basically just satanism but without all the rituals.
Bill and Hillary Clinton are wiccans - a luciferian doctrine.
Bill is a Baptist and Hillary is a Methodist. Hillary is a prominent member of the Senate Prayer Meeting.
Claiming that 'Marx was a satanist' is a little like arguing that St Augustine was a member of the ACT party - it suggests such a basic ignorance and confusion about the subject one can't really do anything but laugh.
Dostoevskys book "The Devils" has some of the most potent and insightful commentary on socialism I have ever read. Its basically a political satire written about 30 or so years before the communists finally did achieve power in Russia, but Dostoevsky saw, almost prophetically, that it was an ideology that would, to borrow his phrase, "flood the world with blood" - beneath its altruistic veneer is the simple lust for power. Its as relevant today as it was then.
"Robbing human rights, mass killings, prison states, the nanny state...when you look at what Marxism has been responsible for on the planet"
I love this, one minute you're voting Labour, next you're in favour of free childcare and before you know it you're putting a fresh coat of paint on the gulag.
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Lucyna,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link and yes, it's hardly surprising. Robbing human rights, mass killings, prison states, the nanny state...when you look at what Marxism has been responsible for on the planet, it could be nothing but the antithesis of all that's good.
De omnibus dubitandum
ReplyDelete- Karl Marx
If you doubt everything, then you will never find the truth.
ReplyDeleteFugley
ReplyDeleteWhilst neither the USA or Australia are by any means utopia only the completely blind could in any way compare them to Stalinist Russia where millions lost their freedom and lives.
andrei, please point out where I compared Australia and USofA to stalinist Russia.
ReplyDeleteI did compare their record with specific accusations levelled at Marxism, not to support Marxism, but to point out to aurora that she is a clot.
Fugley,
ReplyDeletepoint taken. I didn't notice President Bush ordering the killing 10 million of his own citizens. Care to provide proof to the contrary? I suspect your notion and my notion of human rights are quite different. USA is the nanny state? Provide proof, and recall that here in NZ our state provided a model of what a nanny state is by outlawing correction of children by their parents. And are you an American? Think first before...I'll leave you to fill in the gap.
But let's go back to China and the old Soviet Union. I presume because you are silent on the conduct of these countries you do not disagree that Marx and his satanic beliefs are dangerous for humanity? If not, why not?
Lucyna, you may also find it interesting that Bill and Hillary Clinton are wiccans - a luciferian doctrine. If they are elected again it's all on.
ReplyDeleteFugley, on a post called 'Marx was a Satanist' you come along and say 'just like Bush and Howard' and then you say 'what did I say'?
ReplyDeleteThat's just plain deranged.
Something to do with the full moon, I'll wager.
ReplyDelete"thanks for the link and yes, it's hardly surprising. Robbing human rights, mass killings, prison states, the nanny state...when you look at what Marxism has been responsible for on the planet, it could be nothing but the antithesis of all that's good."
ReplyDeleteOnly Marx wasn't actually responsible for any of the authoritarian regimes concocted in his name. Marx's vision of communism was a stateless egalitarian society, it was more like a kind of communal anarchy than the oppressive regimes that get labeled as "Communist" today. The idea of a "Communist state" would have been an oxymoron to Marx. Orthodox communism is more like "State Capitalism" or "State Socialism"
RE:satanism. You might be interested to know that Anton Lavey (a satanist author) openly states that objectivism (the "philosophy" a good portion of libertarians follow) is basically just satanism but without all the rituals.
Bill and Hillary Clinton are wiccans - a luciferian doctrine.
ReplyDeleteBill is a Baptist and Hillary is a Methodist. Hillary is a prominent member of the Senate Prayer Meeting.
Claiming that 'Marx was a satanist' is a little like arguing that St Augustine was a member of the ACT party - it suggests such a basic ignorance and confusion about the subject one can't really do anything but laugh.
Dostoevskys book "The Devils" has some of the most potent and insightful commentary on socialism I have ever read. Its basically a political satire written about 30 or so years before the communists finally did achieve power in Russia, but Dostoevsky saw, almost prophetically, that it was an ideology that would, to borrow his phrase, "flood the world with blood" - beneath its altruistic veneer is the simple lust for power. Its as relevant today as it was then.
ReplyDeleteSatin? I'm more a velour tracksuit person myself.
ReplyDelete"Robbing human rights, mass killings, prison states, the nanny state...when you look at what Marxism has been responsible for on the planet"
ReplyDeleteI love this, one minute you're voting Labour, next you're in favour of free childcare and before you know it you're putting a fresh coat of paint on the gulag.
To be fair Fergus, there are a couple of extra steps there you are missing. The Electoral Finance Bill shutting down free speech, for example.
ReplyDeleteWe shall see, as it is it definitely needs a lot of work, though I think in principle a more transparent process of election funding would be nice.
ReplyDeleteCommunism will triumph again! Wait and see!
ReplyDeletePS: God does not exist. It's all in your mind!
Over my dead body communism will triumph. That I mean with conviction and God is real .
ReplyDeleteThe spiritual power within easy slays the many anonymous keyboard cowards !!
"If Christ himself stood in my way, I, like Nietzsche, would not hesitate to squish him like a worm." - Ernesto Che Guevara
ReplyDelete"God is dead. We have killed him." - Friedrich Nietzsche
:)
Delusions of grandeur, Anon?
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