Overwhelmingly, the EFB submissions say 'nay'. And speaking of neigh - lets go straight to the horses mouth for the EFB submission analysis. I think the work scrubs up quite well: We don't want no thought control
Those who made submissions should be congratulated on their effort, however my view is that the whole procedure is a farce. A strategy that is like most leftist political strategies founded in deceit and deception and propaganda.
Klark and the rest of the commies are determined to control the expression of political ideas in this country and this bill is a major part of the plan. They'll make the appropriate noises, but in the end, they'll do what they want. Because the left don't really care for the democratic process. Their ultimate objective is a totalitarian one party state.
But y'know what the worst part of it all is?? They'll go against all of the submissions that Scrubone has detailed so well, and they'll spit on democracy, and scum like Benson Pope will rub their hands in glee, but around 50% of NZ voters, those apathetic dipshits whose fathers and grandfathers fought and died in a war to prevent the very circumstance this legislation allows, will still support them. The outcome of a decade or two of socialism. A country with no heart and a people with no pride or principle.
Red baiter: "Those who made submissions should be congratulated on their effort, however my view is that the whole procedure is a farce."
Don't actually disagree with you too much there.
There can be no doubt that the bill will be changed radically, and you can bet your bottom dollar that those changes won't be open to public submissions. You can also bet that the changes will read quite differently to this bill, but will be pretty much the same thing.
The real agenda here (from me) is to demonstrate to the public just how much people dislike this bill, and through that, put even more pressure on the minor parties who hold the balance of power.
"The real agenda here (from me) is to demonstrate to the public just how much people dislike this bill, and through that, put even more pressure on the minor parties who hold the balance of power."
Well, I wish you the best of luck of course, and I hope you can achieve some kind of result. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I don't know of any political party with the backbone and principle to make an issue of this. (Even Rod Hide was [recently] ready to do a deal with Labour.)
The trouble with minor parties is that without sitting on the government benches, they don't have much chance of survival. That's why when push comes to shove, they will cave in to Labour. You tell me Scrub, who amongst the minor parties really has the guts to make a stand on this? ..and how many NZers will really let this issue shape their voting during the election?
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Those who made submissions should be congratulated on their effort, however my view is that the whole procedure is a farce. A strategy that is like most leftist political strategies founded in deceit and deception and propaganda.
ReplyDeleteKlark and the rest of the commies are determined to control the expression of political ideas in this country and this bill is a major part of the plan. They'll make the appropriate noises, but in the end, they'll do what they want. Because the left don't really care for the democratic process. Their ultimate objective is a totalitarian one party state.
But y'know what the worst part of it all is?? They'll go against all of the submissions that Scrubone has detailed so well, and they'll spit on democracy, and scum like Benson Pope will rub their hands in glee, but around 50% of NZ voters, those apathetic dipshits whose fathers and grandfathers fought and died in a war to prevent the very circumstance this legislation allows, will still support them. The outcome of a decade or two of socialism. A country with no heart and a people with no pride or principle.
Well said, Redbaiter!
ReplyDeleteComputer says no !
ReplyDeleteRed baiter: "Those who made submissions should be congratulated on their effort, however my view is that the whole procedure is a farce."
ReplyDeleteDon't actually disagree with you too much there.
There can be no doubt that the bill will be changed radically, and you can bet your bottom dollar that those changes won't be open to public submissions. You can also bet that the changes will read quite differently to this bill, but will be pretty much the same thing.
The real agenda here (from me) is to demonstrate to the public just how much people dislike this bill, and through that, put even more pressure on the minor parties who hold the balance of power.
"The real agenda here (from me) is to demonstrate to the public just how much people dislike this bill, and through that, put even more pressure on the minor parties who hold the balance of power."
ReplyDeleteWell, I wish you the best of luck of course, and I hope you can achieve some kind of result. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I don't know of any political party with the backbone and principle to make an issue of this. (Even Rod Hide was [recently] ready to do a deal with Labour.)
The trouble with minor parties is that without sitting on the government benches, they don't have much chance of survival. That's why when push comes to shove, they will cave in to Labour. You tell me Scrub, who amongst the minor parties really has the guts to make a stand on this? ..and how many NZers will really let this issue shape their voting during the election?