"If you don't like abortion - don't have one!"
The above is a fatuous pro-abortion slogan that many people take seriously. It implies that abortion should be treated no differently from the choice to wear the colour red. Since, if you don't like the colour red, you can choose not to wear it. However, it is considered bad form to call out anyone who does like the colour red and might even insist on wearing it in your presence.
The thing is, and this is the important point, the choice to wear the colour red does not kill anyone. The choice for an abortion does.
So really, a more accurate example of something equivalent would be any of the following:
Don't like banks being robbed, don't rob any yourself.
Don't like women being raped, don't rape a woman yourself.
Don't like people being murdered, then don't kill anyone yourself.
Don't like women being raped, don't rape a woman yourself.
Don't like people being murdered, then don't kill anyone yourself.
When the example is changed to something we haven't been conditioned to accept (ie, robbery, rape and murder) then the stupidity of the slogan becomes obvious.
Most people do not want to live in a society where people get robbed, raped or murdered and everyone shrugs and says, well, you know, it was the robber's/rapist's/murder's choice to do that to another person. As long as it's not me, it's not my problem.
Unfortunately for the unborn, no one even hears them cry when they are being ripped from a woman's womb - so it's easy to pretend it's not a crime, it's easy to pretend it's all ok - the baby wasn't even human - and it's none of your business anyway.
Here's to making abortion everyone's business.
Lucyna, your analogy is fatally flawed.
ReplyDeleteI don't like banks being robbed; I don't rob banks
I don't like women being raped; I don't rape.
I don't like people being murdered; I don't murder.
So there, these are my personal choices. And, if everyone was like me, there'd be no robberies, rapes or murders.
But you see, not everyone is like me, so we do have rapoes, robberies and murders. According to some, its because the robbers, rapists and murders have brains wired in a different fashion, according to others its all about apples, sin and the presence of evil.
But that is nothing to do with abortion. Abortion is a simple medical procedure that provides a valuable function, and has far as my reading of history can tell, has been with us since the beginning of time. Its just that in latter years we became more open adn more humane about it.
Why do you and your ilk want to drag us back to the dark ages?
Fugley,
ReplyDeleteConsider a world in which it wasn't illegal to rob/rape or murder because people accepted that there will be some who do this and there is not alot anyone can do about it.
So, you or someone you know could get robbed/raped or murdered and few people would care - except for those who would be jumping up and down trying to get everyone to see just how wrong those things were.
Does that help you?
"A simple medical procedure"?
ReplyDeleteIt ends in death for the fetus Fugley. It stops a beating heart. Don't trivialize murder by pretending this is the same as removing an ingrown toenail.
The debate is over the rights of an unborn to life by letting nature take its course, over the rights of the women not to complete the pregnancy for any reason she feels like.
I appreciate the complexity in both of those positions, but it should never be about how "valuable a function" killing can be.
Fugley
ReplyDeleteWhy are you so prone to hyperbole?
It is the ideology you aspire to that is dragging us back to the dark ages. If you understood anything about history, the dark ages was when abortion, rape, murder and the like were the norm.
Lucyna's analogy works fine. Just be thankful your mother didn't exercise her own choice to abort you.
"If you don't like slavery, then don't own a slave."
ReplyDeleteThat's what abolitionists were told back in the day, when they wanted ban slavery.
"Abortion is a simple medical procedure that provides a valuable function..."
Perhaps simple, but not always good [apart from the baby who always ends up dead] for the mother.
It's a weird kind of world where ending human life is considered a 'valuable function'.
"...drag us back to the dark ages?"
Well, if keeping your legs closed or facing the consequences means 'dark ages' and taking away human rights, see here and here. For the girl babies, they'd be born into the dark ages where women have fewer rights.
However in todays weird, progressive world where we have the most cherished [supposedly] woman's right to abort her unborn, they don't even get to live. I'm not sure how life without abortion-on-demand is so much worse than being cut to pieces and ending up dead.
"If you don't like slavery, then don't own a slave."
ReplyDeleteThat's gold MK.
And if we define a slave as property, then:
How dare you tell me how I can treat my property
Indeed, a prominent Libertarian argues animals are property, and cruelty to animals is a right.
(Hattip: Stranded in Reality