It's Friday. Drop the hoodie and pop in to the NZ conservative neighbourhood. Reveal what lies beneath your chosen attire. No need to spray your opinion all over the blog, when a tidy comment will allow your say. No need to say you are so hip and pro-youth that you can relate to the gansta culture and think it's cool. That kind of artifice is not required here. It's great to be passionate about what you believe in, and we can't be right all the time. That's why I like to cut some people some slack, and it's why I appreciate it when the favour is returned.
Guys, if the world doesn't change when you have kids then my commiserations. Gals, if you don't think being a Mum is a wonderful gift, then likewise too. Some may find that opinion offensive, and if you continue on your way in the world happy with the result, then my apologies. I'm just saying it how I see it, and sometimes, by speaking out, something good can happen.
I wish you all something good. Just drop the hood.
Guys, if the world doesn't change when you have kids then my commiserations. Gals, if you don't think being a Mum is a wonderful gift, then likewise too. Some may find that opinion offensive, and if you continue on your way in the world happy with the result, then my apologies. I'm just saying it how I see it, and sometimes, by speaking out, something good can happen.
I wish you all something good. Just drop the hood.
Good evening Zen ... oh dear ... two m's & two ss's.
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Evening all. I will be spending the weekend trying to regain my youth after the thoroughly terrifying experience of listening to Winston on zb yesterday and finding myself nodding and agreeing with him. The silver tongued bastard still has it and if I had not taken a keen interest in watching him perform the 21st century equivalent of giving it up for beads and blankets by becoming bauble boy I might have been inclined to vote for him.If I start rambling about lawn bowls can somebody please call an ambulance.
ReplyDeleteCall an ambulance? You are going soft. How about we just put you out of your misery?
ReplyDeleteOh, hang, on, I'm against euthanasia. I'm also against euth in hoodies.
Oh dear. Lawn bowls did you say? Friday next week alright for you?
Well since I am smack in the middle of the Arab world right now, and it is the weekend (Friday). I'm working in my hotel room. Thought it was worth saying hello as most of the news I can see is Obamania
ReplyDeleteI kid you not, I was a cobra to his flute playing silky prose. What an enormous disappointment that one of our most gifted orators has sold himself so cheaply.
ReplyDeleteNeedfull things meets parliament.
Who's got the scoop on this Alan Duff story?
ReplyDeleteSounds like the cops pushed the wrong bloke to push.
Rick,
Chch
'Tis a cold & stormy night here and my computer has gone down four times so far this afternoon.
ReplyDeleteThat might be something to do with 120k winds.
But I'm not working this weekend, have a full bottle of Famous Grouse and a steak in the fridge.
Life is mostly good!
Love the analogy BB. I often though Winston voters were basket cases (joking, couldn't resist the pun), but that's not to underestimate their bite (and I build on it here).
ReplyDeleteThe man sells snake oil (ok, I'll stop soon), and it must have its uses. Like most centrist politicians, there is always some policies that don't sound half bad, I just don't really go for the entire package.
Hey libertyscott, good to see you could log in from out yonder. Does freedom feel any different out there?
And here's Rick, who's spent 6 years in Gitmo wasn't it? Another aspect of freedom to consider...
..and I'm three steps behind the Alan Duff story. Fill me in. When I'm back with the Friday Pizza....
The cops north of Taupo have quite a reputation .. particularly 'red.'
ReplyDeleteThe lassie, his protege, lesser so .. but it appears it is with her that Duff tangled/tangoed.
That was how I read it too Rick, young cop gives a bro some lip without realising he is jake the muss's Dad and a smart bastard to boot.
ReplyDeleteZen, it's a varied place (I am in the UAE by the way). The hotel is an oasis of some freedom, as there are around 30 TV channels including CNN, BBC World, Sky News UK, Fashion TV (European models walking up and down the catwalk all day wouldn't please many Islamists) and many Western movies. The only bars are in hotels of course. However women drive, walk around in various forms of dress but all have upper arms and legs above knees covered.
ReplyDeleteInternet access is pretty free, though youtube seems to be banned some days, not others. No political or news sites I have visited are blocked, I'll try some religious ones.
Evening all - how's everyone doing tonight?
ReplyDeleteThe D-Day landing is now on the History channel, but I will pop in during the ads!
ReplyDeleteI've got the laptop out in the lounge - a blobby night watching the Warriors then the cricket, and blogging, while Mrs Inventory writes her message for Sunday!
ReplyDeleteGood IV2,
ReplyDeleteI know that NZ conservative and Clint H have had "issues", in the recent past and I will back my senior co blogger to the hilt. But how ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE. There is some good stuff coming out of that blog.............how about a understanding over the next 6 months.we are all fighting the good ight!
Just 5weeks in a detroit county jail. Prof Newbold said in the lecture yesterday there are (what was it...?) 2.1 million people behind bars in the USA. Out of control!
ReplyDeletePicture of our future.
I like the Duff story. Keeping those trigger-happy cops in check!
BTP said
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numpty +++
GOOD FIGHT!
QED
Zimbabwe is apparently being run by the military, keeping Mugabe going as an enthusiastic figurehead. It is the military behind him NOT conceding in the previous election (he nearly did). It appears his demise will not be an automatic win.
ReplyDeleteHowdy BoomTownPrat. Issues, what issues? Water under the bridge and off the ducks back. Resource levy free water for that matter. There is indeed a bigger picture, and if there's good stuff to link, I'll link it.
ReplyDeleteThe last thing I want at the moment is a Green/Labour combo pushing through anti-family social policies and then topping the economy so some Japanese housewife buys the farm :-)
Although the one thing about a Green led Government is that drugs would be decriminalised and no-one put in jail - but you'd have a huge influx of people wanting to move into them counting on the bars and gates keeping P addicts out.
Good point BTP - to beat the socialists, the right will need to keep its house in order - right across the board. Leave the infighting to the socialists!
ReplyDeleteZimbabwe being mangled by Mugabe p*sses me off nearly as much as DRC, Sierra Leone and Rwanda.
ReplyDeleteAll of the peaceniks should be thrilled at what doing nothing achieves.
And then when doing nothing has killed enough people, they should check out how things get even worse sending in the UN. Brilliant.
And he's in Rome bleating on about how NZ and team failed to help. Well, we could extend a lot of help right now to Zimbabwe. We could nab him and add him to the 2.1 million prisoners in the USA.
On the other hand, I'm nice to animals, and I want good things for many people.
ReplyDeleteHe should be tried in absentia in the International Court in the Hague, so that a warrant is out for his arrest worldwide. This would stop him ever going to an OECD country at least.
ReplyDeleteIt's the 21st century, how many more tyrants can be allowed to get away with mass murder and given respect? Italy should have arrested him when he arrived, albeit that requires enormous courage - but then Berlusconi might have one legacy worth being proud of.
Thanks ZT and IV2.
ReplyDeleteFor the first time in 10 years I am optimistic.
This time, we won't get fooled again.
http://clintheine.blogspot.com/2008/06/wont-get-fooled-again.html
I think ZenTiger has forgotten why the link was removed in the first place. I'll refresh the memory.
ReplyDeleteEvening everyone.
ReplyDeleteJust got back from the big bad city.
I have had pizza too.
I used my Entertainment Book and got four pizza hut pizzas for the price of two.
Now, Rick when you were in jail, were you tortured by guards hitting you with ladies panties.
I saw some story saying that's what happening down in Guntanomo Bay.
Maybe thats what gets the muslims happy, thinking of the 72 virgins.
So you live in wellytown Boomtownprat.
Would love to cach up with you next time i'm down there and Lucyna and Zentiger too.
I think there needs to be a gathering of the bloggers in all the Kiwi capitals.
The policital capital.
The business capital.
And for our good friend Rick, Christchurch.
Who's keen?
And talking of Cantabrians? What's happened to Trevor Loudon?
Is he still in the US?
Hopefully he has found some scandal about the lightweight leftist.
Right off to the emergency GP now. 6yo touched the fireplace. lady Barnsley having a big girly panic. All, he needs is savlon and an Ice Block.. Remind me again why I ever got married.. back in an hour.
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ReplyDeleteHow do you cope with the nose bleeds and lack of oxygen up their on the moral high ground Lucyna?
ReplyDeleteClint et al blog about politics, football and popular issues. Occasionally the line is crossed, as is their right. It may not be palatable to you, but it is often rich in sarcasm and occasionally acute.
I find some aspects of your blog more offensive than anything Clint et al have published, but I respect your right to do it and will not "ban" it.
I think the bloggers on NZ Conservative are highly intelligent, astute and provide a great forum for discussion of contemporary issues. Why you continue to take a Luddite attitude to a co Forum...........I will never understand.
Bloggers unite - for the good fight.
ReplyDeleteCheers all.
I had a comment of mine censored a few weeks back, BTP, so don't be too upset.
ReplyDeleteI tend to be quite liberal on gay rights, despite being conservative on just about everything else.
I guess the right is a broad church, as it were, and we need to be united in the months ahead.
Defeating Helengrad for thegreater good demands it.
YES fairfacts, the total eradication of Klark's regime should be the primary objective for every sane thinking New Zealander.
ReplyDeleteOne of my Key concerns (pun deliberate) is that if the Nats do slip below 50% (which frankly has been the norm in NZ politics for decades, even Muldoon couldn't pull off a 50% landslide in 1975), who will they rely on?
ReplyDeleteLabour COULD have used the Greens and the Maori Party, as "natural" allies on the left, but choose NZF and UF. National presumably would face the same choice of using ACT. However UF is almost certainly back to just Peter Dunne, NZF may be gone, leaving the Maori Party and even the Greens. The Greens are highly unlikely to back the Nats, but the Maori Party?
I know it is idle speculation, but Labour has relied on UF for two terms now, and NZF for one, and few saw that coming given the conservative background of UF and NZF. Don't forget, Jim Anderton initially promised to support the Nats in power after the 1993 election on the basis that it won the greatest number of seats, so one can say stranger things have happened!
Oh, *that* old issue. To be honest, I'd forgotten it.
ReplyDeleteI found the thread still interesting in the re-read. James does like the shock / awe approach to blogging.
BoomTownPrat, you ask why we seem to be Luddites - check out the blog name: it's got *conservative* in it :-).
Evening all. We're sharing Oswald's weather here. At least it's not frosty though.
ReplyDeleteGetting rid of Labour would be great, but I can't see the Nats fixing much of what ails us--we'll still have the RMA and no new power stations, the nannying industry isn't going to pack up and leave and National aren't going to reduce the fuel tax significantly.
They won't sack anybody from the bloated bureaucracy, just shuffle them sideways and they won't be able to get the joke known as the edukashun system under control either.
Good point libertyscott.
ReplyDeleteI am not so sure the Nats can sweep to power. Admittedly, my election prediction skills are useless, and I don't bother picking horses either. But still, it seems to me that if the Nats don't clear the 50% mark, they will find coalition partners hard to work with, and the whole government could be precarious.
Maybe things will become clearer closer to the date, but I can see huge potential for major upsets - like ACT disappearing, Winston and NZ First possibly decimated or 50% bigger, and the Greens decimated or 100% bigger.
Interesting that they are going to put up candidates for the Maori seats.
The Greens do badly in the Maori seats, because the majority of Maori voters are quite conservative on social issues, Greens perceived as urban liberal and white. Enormous cultural gap the Greens don't properly understand, but think they do. The Maori seats are for Maori Party and Labour, but next are NZF and National. The Greens rank with ACT frankly.
ReplyDeleteHowever on ALL the smaller parties, the polls are irrelevant - the sample size is too small, and it wont become clear how popular they are until the campaign starts. Jim Anderton may also be an overhang MP, I doubt his party will get enough votes to avoid that. Given the Maori Party has a couple of overhang seats, this means party votes aren't everything!
Speaking of the Greens, Toad says:
ReplyDeleteWe are just a creature, sharing the resources of our planet with other creatures.
Zen says: Exactly Toad. For years I’ve been saying DDT kills mosquitoes. Will no-one think of the mosquitoes??
Which was all a bit off topic, because it was on Kiwiblog, discussing why Labour want to spend a couple of billion on a tunnel under Auckland. Perhaps they can install massive undersea aquariums, like a drive through Kelly Tarlton Aquarium...
I always thought NZCatholic might have been a good name for your blog, ZenT.
ReplyDeleteTo me, when I think of Conservative, I often think of the UK Conservative Party.
How are they doing over there Libery Scott.
Is Gordon Brown still getting as big a whupping as John Boy is giving Hulun.
Fairfacts, he certainly is. Tories are a good 15-20% ahead in polls, although still only placed in the low 40% range that is enough under FPP. Liberal Democrats are static in the high teens.
ReplyDeleteThe local elections and the Crewe and Nantwich by-election hammered Labour badly, but there is two years to go.
Wow, back now, your kind words of concern were much appreciated by young William. Doctor has picked my pocket, put magic cream on the microscopic singe lady barnsley wanted to call the helicopter over and we have all had a pineapple fruju.
ReplyDeleteEuphemism of the day: We are about to experience "Power Saving Measures" in the middle of winter because Labour have banned gas fired base stations, and the Greens have blocked other projects.
ReplyDeleteNo, it's not "Power Saving Measures", it's "Power Cuts".
As Kiwis freeze their way through the coming cold snap, in the dark, perhaps a few light bulbs will go on.
Labour can campaign as a low watt party. I'm ready to make some cuts.
˙˙ɐuıɥɔ oʇ lɐoɔ ǝɥʇ ƃuıddıɥs uɐɥʇ ǝsɹoʍ ʎuɐ ǝq ʇ,uɐɔ ʇı ˙ʇsɐoɔ ʇsǝʍ ǝɥʇ uo uoıʇɐʇs pǝɹıɟ lɐoɔ ɐ plınq uǝɥʇ puɐ ǝlqɐɔ ʇıɐɹʇs ʞooɔ ǝɥʇ xıɟ `ʎlʇunɥ ʇɐ uoıʇɐʇs pǝɹıɟ lɐoɔ ɐ plınq sʇǝl ˙uıɐƃɐ ʇɹɐʇs puɐ uʍop ǝpısdn ɯǝlqoɹd ɹǝʍod ǝɥʇ uɹnʇ oʇ pǝǝu ǝʍ
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear all is good. It has to be if you've cracked open the frujus. Mmmmm.
ReplyDeleteYou've reminded me I keep planning to buy one of those fire guards for winter. My kids run past the fire place like banshees, and no amount of 30 minute speeches with much hand waving and recounting of all of the stories of Dresden seem to have the slightest impact on them.
Now that comment had style.
ReplyDeleteJust the right amount of spin, BB :-)
ReplyDeleteThe kids only ever get injured when left with their mother. My boy has been "Hot shit" aware since he was 18 months. His mother let him help put some wood in and he touched the glass for a nanosecond.He is fast asleep now laying next to me in the big bed. His last comment before sleep overtook him was "I wont be able to go to school for a whole week dad" My response was... you have a singe not a decapitation, harden up or you will not be allowed to help dad with the axe and the firewood tomorrow. he smiled and fell asleep.
ReplyDeleteWhile NZ tries to be Green and luddite like, I am in the United Arab Emirates which burns oil to generate electricity, has no railways, everyone drives, uses desalination plants to get water and has a massive carbon footprint.
ReplyDeletebut it's the third world so it is ok, yet everything here is very first world. The ONLY way the per capita GDP is low here are the hoards of cheap labour from South Asia who are still earning 10x what they would in Pakistan - the local born population lives very well and has a massive carbon footprint.
˙˙sʇǝƃpıʍ ƃuıʇsɐʍ ǝɯıʇ ʍǝu ʍǝɟ ɐ punoɟ ǝʌɐɥ ˙qǝʍɹǝʇuı ǝɥʇ uo ƃuıʎɐld ʎɐpoʇ ǝɯoɥ ʇɐ ʎɐp ǝɥʇ pɐɥ ǝʌɐɥ ı `sǝʎ
ReplyDeletebut it's the third world so it is ok, yet everything here is very first world.
ReplyDeleteYes, it's hilarious when you think about it. China is exempt from Kyoto, and is the world's biggest polluter. And we are complicit in exempting them then and buying their output.
I think I need me a widget to make sense of this.
At least China is genuinely poor on a per head of population basis and developing. The oil rich Gulf states are not. Singapore is not by any measure, but is classified as a "developing country" by the UN, but it wealthier than half of the EU countries.
ReplyDeleteWatch also how airlines worldwide struggle, EXCEPT Emirates, Etihad, Qatar Airways and the like. I don't fly them because I think they are unfair competition, getting cheap fuel because of connections and government, which wont be sold to the likes of BA, Qantas, Air NZ, Singapore Airlines.
Nice nor-wester ripping down here, warming things up. Different story tomorrow. Might get snowed on!?
ReplyDeleteNo torture was practised, FF.
I think Trev' is home now. Expect to see him on Monday.
Evening Rick, Liberty and BB
ReplyDeleteGlad the lad is fine now
check your blog for my contact details
I will be in and around auckland this weekend
and would love to see you
maybe i could rally up some of the No Minister boys and Whale Oil
I'm sure they'd love to see you
Glad you suffered no torture rick
you must google the story about some guy being tortured by womens underwear
Pass on our regards to Trev
We hope to hear much about what he has been doing
and we hope he has the goods on Obama
and Dear Leader too
I wonder if he found anything about Peter
Thanks BTP, tis fine. I have no beef with NZ conservative.
ReplyDeleteFunnily enough almost everybody (even lefties) apologised to me for that apart from Lucyna Maria. :)
I don't think Lucyna has anything to apologise for.
ReplyDeleteHeine, surely it's James that should be apologising to Maia, and you that should be considering when to support your friends and when to tell them they are over the line?
Why would Lucyna owe you an apology for you being crass, and James being so offensive?
yeah yeah whatever. Obviously your perception is in the minority. I need not to go through this again as you are wrong.
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