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The sun will rise

It's a very stupid argument to pretend that your opposing party thinks the sun will not rise if x or y happens. I have NEVER heard anyone use this argument, although I hear the reverse plenty from people who are avoiding making serious points by dancing around with comments like this. So let's get this clear: The Aztecs occasionally missed a sacrifice, and the sun did rise. The Roman Empire withered and died, and the sun did rise. Hitler killed 11 million or so in concentration camps, and the sun did rise. Stalin worked another 30 million to death, and the sun did rise. 17,000+ abortions in NZ last year, and the sun did rise. Children killed in mass shootings, and the sun did rise. Friends and family diagnosed with cancer, and the sun did rise. A piece of legislation passed, and the sun did rise. No-one really expected otherwise. Seriously. The actual argument being made is "I don't foresee any negative consequences in action x", or perhaps "...

Beyond the level

This you-tube clip does a good job in counter-pointing the new left wing bible: The Spirit Level. It's worth watching just for that. However, it's also worth watching the last six and a half minutes (wind to 39:00) to see the typical tactics used against the speaker in what was a fair and reasoned counter to the statistical analysis in The Spirit Level - a reflection on the many of the debates of our age.

TV3 Leaders Debate

Anyone watching the leaders debate on TV3 Between Helen Clark and John Key? What do you think? Who is winning? Leave comments here. Not sure I like John Campbell's style; he's a lot more aggressive than Sainsbery. I don't know if I'll be able to stomach watching the whole thing. I saw Helen on Breakfast this morning, and although I've heard crap come out of her mouth before, I've never heard so much crap at one time...