Amnesty International: The death penalty is the ultimate cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment. It violates the right to life. It is irrevocable and can be inflicted on the innocent. It has never been shown to deter crime more effectively than other punishments. Amnesty International works for an end to executions and the abolition of the death penalty everywhere.
Now, I also know that Amnesty fights to free prisoners "of conscience". That is, Amnesty go to bat for any person or persons imprisoned by others and held in captivity. I used to think they did a good job, but recently I came across a case where Amnesty had received a request for help, circulated the call amongst members and they are seriously considering supporting the death penalty, even though this person is innocent of any wrongdoing. Furthermore, they have suggested that all others in a similar situation should have the death penalty, if that's what their jailer decides. Here's the letter that set it off:
Amnesty meet in August to ratify this recommendation. The UK section and NZ recently affirmed the resolution. They really hate these dudes that much. And I thought they were against the death penalty? Guess again folks.
Amnesty to ensure all countries are allowed to kill detainees.
Now, I also know that Amnesty fights to free prisoners "of conscience". That is, Amnesty go to bat for any person or persons imprisoned by others and held in captivity. I used to think they did a good job, but recently I came across a case where Amnesty had received a request for help, circulated the call amongst members and they are seriously considering supporting the death penalty, even though this person is innocent of any wrongdoing. Furthermore, they have suggested that all others in a similar situation should have the death penalty, if that's what their jailer decides. Here's the letter that set it off:
Dear AmnestyNow that letter earned a strong rebuke from Amnesty, who consider this request to be well outside their core business. In fact, following this letter, they publicly announced that they were shifting from their previous neutral stance and moving to change their mission statement and actively encourage such prisoners to be put to death at the pleasure of their captor. This was a copy of the letter that signalled Amnesty's change in direction.
I have been held captive for 3 months now in a small room with no windows and a single door. I am fed, kept warm, but nothing else. I know I am on borrowed time. Occasionally I hear discussions outside my room on if I should be killed. I have tried to get out, but all my efforts have no effect. To the best of my knowledge, I have done nothing wrong - I have remained out of politics and wouldn't presume to make any moral judgments, yet, as a human, I feel I have a right to life. Can you help me?
Signed B.
Dear B.
Thanks for your letter. Let's get one thing straight. We don't give a shit. You have no right to ask us to help. You have no right to expect to live. Frankly, we are amazed you have the gall to write to us and put us in this kind of position. We are just not interested. You take what you get and if your captor wants to kill you, so be it.
You may try to make this about politics, about morals, or some grand statement about "life". That's all too esoteric for us. What we specialize in is convenience, and appropriate lifestyle choices.
Did you ever stop to think you are simply an inconvenience? Did you consider for one moment you are seriously infringing upon another person's right to happiness? Your self-centredness really makes us puke here at Amnesty. Besides, consider the resources you will waste. If we help you, there are millions more like you that would suddenly get all uppity, and want to have a life outside your miserable windowless cell. And why? Life isn't a gift or an automatic right, it is something earned.
I suppose you think you have a right to food, clothing and shelter? Well , what planet are you from? If you can't work for a living, then don't expect to live on the charity of others. We don't need crap excuses about "lack of education", "language and communication problems", "lack of opportunity" and so forth. That's just pathetic. Give us a break.
I don't know how you got this idea you could join the human race, but as far as we are concerned, you and your millions of little friends are just inconsiderate queue jumpers. Go back to where-ever you came from or do us all a favour and drop dead.
Yours Sincerely, Amnesty.
Amnesty meet in August to ratify this recommendation. The UK section and NZ recently affirmed the resolution. They really hate these dudes that much. And I thought they were against the death penalty? Guess again folks.
Amnesty to ensure all countries are allowed to kill detainees.
Well written,
ReplyDeleteI've always pointed out how it's hypocritical to keep sopme mass murder alive like pickton or olson in Canada because they being evil sleezoids deserve the right to life while 1/4 of Canadian children are summarily executed.
Don't know if its 1/4 in NZ but 105,000 Canadians a year have the right to life taken from them.
Very good.
ReplyDeleteWhose side are you on? I WOULD abort this, no hesitation. To do otherwise is simply inhumane.
ReplyDeleteA 17-year-old pregnant Irish girl is appearing in the High Court in Dublin to press for the right to travel to Britain for an abortion.
Doctors have told the girl that her four-month foetus will not live more than a few days beyond birth.
She is in the care of Ireland's health service which has issued an order stopping her from going to Britain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6618911.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2072020,00.html
fugley ( H1 ) froths ,"To do otherwise is simply inhumane."
ReplyDeleteIn my book abortion is culpable homicide !
And, in your book, what is it to knowingly bring in to the world a child that will suffer for a few days and then die?
ReplyDeleteDo you even know hat "anencephalic" means? Why would you condemn the "mother" to carrying this unviable foetus to full term?
In my book, your book needs to be burned!
Fugley, Amnesty are not fighting for this one particular situation, but for society to accept abortion, in principle, is a matter of convenience.
ReplyDeleteDo you want to hazard a guess as the number of abortions that are performed as routine birth control as compared to a genuine medical necessity?
Zen, I don't care how many abortions are "performed as routine birth control", but I do care that this people are trying to force this young woamn to carry an unviable foetus to full term, not for any health reasons, but becuae of their (repeat THEIR) beliefs.
ReplyDeleteMyth, faith and lie has no place in health care.
fugley is right you know, in some sort of Irish way ,for example, take NZ health care ( tragic case )that is all a big myth and lie, that is in desperate need of some faith .
ReplyDeleteSave the kids = stop the killing - have faith smugley !!
Did you enjoy Church today fuglit twit ?
I have a Maori chap living in my home while I help with with court matters , I am not a racist . You are a twisted demented vile evil septic tank dweller . I am a conservative and I belong here , what the hell are you doing here ? are you short of foxhole friends you twisted backstabber jellyfish !
ReplyDeleteI suggest look in the mirror to find the sad case around here !!
Fugley, there is absolutely no force involved in carrying a child to term. The force is all in the abortion, which kills a human life.
ReplyDeleteIt's very, very sad for this young girl that her baby's only real life will be in her womb - to take that away, to tell her her child deserves to die because he/she is not "perfect" is to condemn this girl for the rest of her life into being an active participant in her own child's untimely death.
Lucyna, I am NOT telling this woman her child deserves to die. But if your god exists, what is his plan for a child that will be born with its brain outside its skull?
ReplyDeleteThere is no point in carrying this foetus to full term becuase it cannot and it will not live beyond a few days, if you can call what it will do living.
I find it so much easier to accept this random chance as an atheist than I ever could if i bought in to the myth of a loving god.
Fugley, is this an argument about God or abortion?
ReplyDeleteI know a couple of atheists who are against abortion as well.... how would you argue it with them?
Lucyna didn't bring God up in her last comment and I think some valid arguments can be made against abortion without using the G word.... we should be able to discuss this as people with views on the issue, not as theists vs atheists....
The insults (from both sides) only degrade our ability to learn from each other.
ZenTiger - Can I use this satirical letter? Its very very good.
ReplyDeleteBe my guest...
ReplyDeleteI am no friend of abortion, in fact few on the "pro-choice" argument are, and I'm decidedly more conservative than most. However fugly raised a legitimate point about anencephalic foetus's and the law getting in the way of aborting them.
ReplyDeleteIt IS force making a woman carry an unviable foetus, which at best will be a miscarriage at some point, at worst will be born, without a brain being a medical freak.
If those who resist abortion cannot even bring themselves to concede that carrying such a foetus is a nonsense (as it can never have consciousness and will die within days of birth), a major risk to the mother's real life, besides being a traumatic experience (consider being told you have to spend 7 months carrying a severely malformed foetus effectively without a brain, because other people say you must) then their legitimate arguments will being dismissed as lunatic dogma.
To me, abortion necessary to save the mother's life or to remove a demonstrably unviable foetus is completely justifiable.
And what about some focus on the other 99% of the cases?
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