Sorry for the confusing thread title :)
Some of this may sound a bit weird, but I'm just going to post about what I've been thinking about and watching and reading over the past couple of days.
First of all GOD TV. My folks get the satellite TV with lots of Christian stations, including EWTN the Catholic TV station. It's well worth getting if you consider that there is nothing else to watch on secular TV. The stations are free to get, once you have bought the satellite dish and it's been tuned in etc.
Anyway, back to GOD TV. I was watching this the other day and it had a segment with a man and a woman who turned out to be Wendy and Rory who started the station. Wendy was praying especially for Britain on this segment as she felt that it was under attack, and that the weather was somehow connected to the occult and Harry Potter. Yes, you can scoff, but I wondered....
Of course, this weekend is the launch of the new Harry book and it has seen some of the worst weather Britain has seen in YEARS. Coincidence? Maybe....
We've just been battered here in New Zealand about a week and a half ago by foul weather - the worst in 100 years some say. I looked up the date and it was the 11th of July - the release date of the new Harry Potter movie. You will say I'm crazy for saying there is some connection between the two, so I'm not going to say anything apart from calling the dates to your attention.
I tried to find more about what Wendy said about it on the GOD TV site, but I couldn't see it. I DID see this prophesy that she made on 19th July 2006 - almost exactly a year ago. I don't know whether my fellow Christians on here believe in prophesy - I do; it says in the Bible -
Anyway, it is up to you I guess as to what you believe, and time will surely tell.
Her prophesy though, is full of hope. She speaks of seeing Britain being bound with humanism and secularism, and the Lion of Britain being weak and sick but that God is going to rise up his Saints because of the prayers of believers and Britain will be a Christian country again, not only in name but in deed and that the Lion of Britain will roar again.
Perhaps it does sound a bit Arthurian, but I tell you it did my heart good to read it. Often I go to abidingtruth.com to see what is happening in the news and it makes very depressing reading most days.
It is good to feel that positive things are going to happen; not all is hopeless and that God's hands are never tied. We all know that God has already won and Satan will be defeated in the end - it's a foregone conclusion.
Keep on praying. I know that I don't pray enough, but prayer is so powerful.
Some of this may sound a bit weird, but I'm just going to post about what I've been thinking about and watching and reading over the past couple of days.
First of all GOD TV. My folks get the satellite TV with lots of Christian stations, including EWTN the Catholic TV station. It's well worth getting if you consider that there is nothing else to watch on secular TV. The stations are free to get, once you have bought the satellite dish and it's been tuned in etc.
Anyway, back to GOD TV. I was watching this the other day and it had a segment with a man and a woman who turned out to be Wendy and Rory who started the station. Wendy was praying especially for Britain on this segment as she felt that it was under attack, and that the weather was somehow connected to the occult and Harry Potter. Yes, you can scoff, but I wondered....
Of course, this weekend is the launch of the new Harry book and it has seen some of the worst weather Britain has seen in YEARS. Coincidence? Maybe....
We've just been battered here in New Zealand about a week and a half ago by foul weather - the worst in 100 years some say. I looked up the date and it was the 11th of July - the release date of the new Harry Potter movie. You will say I'm crazy for saying there is some connection between the two, so I'm not going to say anything apart from calling the dates to your attention.
I tried to find more about what Wendy said about it on the GOD TV site, but I couldn't see it. I DID see this prophesy that she made on 19th July 2006 - almost exactly a year ago. I don't know whether my fellow Christians on here believe in prophesy - I do; it says in the Bible -
In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. - Acts2:16-18
Anyway, it is up to you I guess as to what you believe, and time will surely tell.
Her prophesy though, is full of hope. She speaks of seeing Britain being bound with humanism and secularism, and the Lion of Britain being weak and sick but that God is going to rise up his Saints because of the prayers of believers and Britain will be a Christian country again, not only in name but in deed and that the Lion of Britain will roar again.
Perhaps it does sound a bit Arthurian, but I tell you it did my heart good to read it. Often I go to abidingtruth.com to see what is happening in the news and it makes very depressing reading most days.
It is good to feel that positive things are going to happen; not all is hopeless and that God's hands are never tied. We all know that God has already won and Satan will be defeated in the end - it's a foregone conclusion.
Keep on praying. I know that I don't pray enough, but prayer is so powerful.
I'd love to get EWTN. Maybe one day soon...
ReplyDeleteI'd love to see the Lion of Britain roar again.
ReplyDeleteBut it will only happen when Gordon Brown and his Liarbour government is defeated, the Tory opposition find a decent leader, and the Islamist hordes are swept back to where they came from.
Pommiekiw, yeh I agree. According to this, Brown told PinkNews he's going to advance the homosexual cause at home and abroad..
ReplyDeleteBrown isn't there because he's been elected - he simply took over.
"...he's going to advance the homosexual cause..."
ReplyDeleteIn true leftist fashion, he has his priorities right.
... hmmm once you attempt to build a retributive model like this (bad things happing to bad people) you must also fit in the 'bad things happening to good people' as well as the rather common 'good things happening to bad people'.
ReplyDeleteIf heavy rain is connected to Harry Potter then what are Brazilian airliners burning up, buried Mexican buses, and French pilgrim buses going off cliffs connected to?
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Disclosure: I'm Catholic.
Greg, I wasn't suggesting bad things happen to bad people - I'm not even SURE that Potter can affect the weather etc - I was just saying what I'd seen and how it was curious that the release of the last Potter book coincided with the worst storms in Britain in years.
ReplyDeleteIf I was to suggest anything in that vein it would probably be that by ignoring God and embracing things which God says to leave alone (witchcraft etc), that we may bring on our own misfortune?
If you're in a car and the driver has been drinking, it's not just him that is at risk, it's the 'innocent' people in the car and on the road as well.
Again, I wouldn't have thought this at all if I hadn't seen that woman on TV praying for Britain about it.
I don't for one minute think the British lion will roar again.
ReplyDeleteIn fact I think we're looking at the end days of a once-great society, because the rot has gone too deep and spread too far to be reversed.
Any "cure" for her current ills will change Britain irrevocably.
and the floods in New Orleans were because of Bush's policies? Yeah right!
ReplyDeleteThe rain falls on the just and the unjust.
and the floods in New Orleans were because of Bush's policies?
ReplyDeleteI believe they were caused by the release of an Adam Sandler comedy.
You lot are truly wacko!
ReplyDeleteWell Danyl, my statistical regression model says that both events have about the same probability of causing the floods.
ReplyDeleteCare to attribute any NZ disasters to civil unions Fletch ?
ReplyDeleteOut of curiosity, do good things happen when someone produces godly media ?
Someone should wiki and see what happened the day Passion of the Christ was released, make some kind of scoresheet.
This whole idea sounds oddly like Jerry Falwell too.
"If heavy rain is connected to Harry Potter then what are ... French pilgrim buses going off cliffs connected to?"
ReplyDeleteExactly (except that they were Polish pilgrims in France). What message was God trying to give us there? Perhaps the message that a bus full of devout pilgrims can crash, just like any other bus? Maybe if it rains real hard the message is that occasionally it rains real hard?
The superstition that pisses me off worse than this one is disaster survivors who say "God saved me" - one day a reporter with some bollocks will reply "God saved you but let the others die? I guess he really had it in for those other assholes, huh?"
If you're asking the question, 'does God punish bad people and let good things happen to Christians' then the answer is of course, no; I don't believe that.
ReplyDeleteDoes God allow suffering? Yes, I believe that he allows suffering to happen to good and bad people, both. Even a parent can allow suffering if it is for the child's greater good - eg, an inoculation jab.
But can a country or a person (by that person or country's own doing) remove themselves from God's Grace by doing things he says not to do? Maybe.
Milt, your sarcasm ill becomes you :) Do I believe that God can save someone? YES, I do. I saw this documentary on TV the other day about Desmond Doss. It was one of the most amazing documentaries I've ever seen. We just had a guy here get the VC, but this guy Doss went into enemy lines EVERY DAY, dragging wounded back - a guy under each arm. They interviewed the soliders who were there and they said he would pray and then would go into enemy lines with bullets buzzing around like flies and he would act like there was no enemy there.
He refused to leave anyone behind and would go back again and again.
In fact, one of the enemy hills that his men had to go to, every other battalion that had gone there had been wiped out. Doss asked if he could pray for his men before he went up and was allowed and he didn't lose a single man.
They interviewed a guy who was one of the enemy soldiers and he said, 'I had that guy in my sights again and again on different occasions, but every time I pulled the trigger my gun would lock up'.
Amazing. I wish everyone could watch the doco. I might buy some copies.
I'm sorry, but I find sarcasm difficult to suppress in this situation. Presumably a good number of Doss' colleagues who ended up riddled with bullets had also said their prayers before going to certain death, and equally presumably a substantial quantity of prayers were drifting up from Auschwitz ca 1944, also to no avail.
ReplyDeleteIf a disaster survivor announces that God saved them, there's an obvious corollary that he didn't see anyone else who was present as being worth saving - it's pretty much a calculated insult to the people who died.
It depends if you define "worth" by living or dying.
ReplyDeleteMilty, the thing is, is that you see dying as being a bad thing; the ultimate end to a good run.
ReplyDeleteAs ASA Jones puts it -
The difference between man and God is that God is fully aware of man's spiritual reality in addition to his physical reality. God knows that physical suffering cannot harm our eternal souls. God knows that our physical destruction is not an end to our existence. Of what significance is an hour of physical suffering compared to eternity? Of what significance is a lifetime of suffering compared to eternity? We can conclude that from God's perspective, our physical suffering is relatively insignificant. This is not to say that He is unsympathetic or oblivious to our pain
Do you see?
It isn't that God wills us to experience misfortune, but that these misfortunes are merely the consequence of living in a physical world within our physical bodies. Every day, loving people make the decision to bring children into this world, knowing that it is a world filled with risk and injury. God is no less loving for having created the world in which we all live. But one may ask, "Why doesn't God do what He can to prevent these injuries, as any good parent would?
The argument quickly reduces itself into absurdity. At what point should God cease to prevent suffering? Should He suspend gravity for every trip of the foot? Should He suspend the properties of heat for every finger that touches a lit stove? In short, we would be asking God to suspend the physical laws that allow our very existence.
Yes, suffering is bad and death is bad (or so it seems to us), but if you believe in God and you believe in Eternity then this life is but the blink of an eye.
The people jabbering their thanks to the Lord for saving them seem to have also seen dying as a bad thing once it was staring them in the face...
ReplyDeleteDon't these two sentences seem incompatible:
ReplyDelete"If you're asking the question, 'does God punish bad people and let good things happen to Christians' then the answer is of course, no; I don't believe that."
and
"But can a country or a person (by that person or country's own doing) remove themselves from God's Grace by doing things he says not to do? Maybe."
So what happens if they do remove themselves from God's grace ? They get the full raft of acts of god apparently, thereby contradicting the first statement.
Oh and by the way, about the most interesting thing I could find that happened on the 24th Feb 2004 is that some Canadian inventor died, so obviously Mel Gibson's efforts are not monumentous enough to attract good things.
PM, of course we see dying as a bad thing. We don't know for sure what happens next, and we have a lot of things on this earth we'd like to experience.
ReplyDeleteIf there is a God, and there are reasons for a soul to go either to heaven. hell or purgatory, then my point still stands. In the greater scheme of things, a death may not be as terrible a thing as it obviously is in its context of this time and place.
Fergus - wasn't Mel Gibson's efforts enough in themselves for that day? Surely, that was the sign? :-)
I'm coming late into this discussion. KG, no I don't think the British lion will roar again. In my opinion, this empire has died and succombed to the Marxist-style centralized state, the E.U.
ReplyDeleteOn Harry Potter, I'm going to stick my neck out here as I know there are foaming at the mouth HP nuts who will want to rip my throat out (believe me, I've discussed this with them), the religious ones are the worst and I'm a Christian. I don't believe in witchcraft. That's not to say, I don't believe that witchcraft doesn't have destructive supernatural power because that is exactly why I don't believe IN it (i.e. place my trust in it). I believe in God whose power is far greater than anything Harry Potter can cook up. The occult is malignant. I've known people personally who have been devastated by it. To whitewash it, especially to children is appalling and a lie. Magical thinking is a farce. Getting stuff takes effort and hard work. I haven't seen or read any Harry Potter and I don't intend to waste my time doing so. Seeing its effect on those obsessed with it is enough.