The sickening story of the young child being tortured a few days ago is obviously going to see people trying to make sense of the travesty by fitting it into their world view. And of course, if that view ends up being attack on another's view then we get a long blog thread that seems to end up way off topic.
So I see over on the Kiwiblog thread of this that the inevitable claim from the left is that the right are sick bastards for seeing links to welfare dependency and a whole host of other issues and making political hay from this.
That might be a fair comment if it weren't for the fact that many on the left were guilty of much worse - equating a smack with child abuse and using no end of similar stories to 'prove' that smacking needed to be outlawed.
If people are going to map the above story to welfare dependency, race, lack of Christian values, neighbourly disinterest, declining morals, the education system, liberalization or whatever, I think they are entitled to, and the debate can be made. People want to figure oput the problem and solve it.
It seems most of us on the right, and I dare say a few on the left have not been convinced Sue Bradford's social engineering efforts were well placed to prevent this sort of thing. And given that she would have no doubt used this sad story as fodder for her own political gain, I think that argument being made from those on Kiwiblog trying to make it falls resoundingly flat.
I for one, welcome theories and welcome suggestions on how to fix this. In amongst all of the rhetoric and posturing we might just learn something.
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So I see over on the Kiwiblog thread of this that the inevitable claim from the left is that the right are sick bastards for seeing links to welfare dependency and a whole host of other issues and making political hay from this.
That might be a fair comment if it weren't for the fact that many on the left were guilty of much worse - equating a smack with child abuse and using no end of similar stories to 'prove' that smacking needed to be outlawed.
If people are going to map the above story to welfare dependency, race, lack of Christian values, neighbourly disinterest, declining morals, the education system, liberalization or whatever, I think they are entitled to, and the debate can be made. People want to figure oput the problem and solve it.
It seems most of us on the right, and I dare say a few on the left have not been convinced Sue Bradford's social engineering efforts were well placed to prevent this sort of thing. And given that she would have no doubt used this sad story as fodder for her own political gain, I think that argument being made from those on Kiwiblog trying to make it falls resoundingly flat.
I for one, welcome theories and welcome suggestions on how to fix this. In amongst all of the rhetoric and posturing we might just learn something.
Related Link: Abuse of child sickening
Related Link: The grate debate
You can't "fix it" per se.
ReplyDeleteWe live in a fallen world and while people exist bad things will happen.
What you can do is encourage the responsible to have more children and stack the culture with people who nurture and care for their kids and make this the norm.
While this sort of behaviour is anomalous fortunately, it is distressingly apparent that the high profile cases where these things have been observed involve people who have had multiple children with different partners.
"By the pricking of my thumbs.. something evil this way comes".
ReplyDeleteIf we refuse to believe in the existence of evil, then we can't understand the problem. This isn't the superstitious or religious belief so despised by some, but a belief or knowledge of the dark parts of the mind that can conjure such things and it's present in us all. But the pathway to this area is blocked by the obstacles of taboo, religion, knowledge, education and laws.
But for some, there's a clear path back to this land of nightmares that's untrammelled by the obstacles and inhibitions that most of us have. You can see this in the novelty of the torture(s) put on the child. Once we used to talk in awe and shock about a couple of cases where a cat was put in water and then put in a tumble drier.. the awe was there because it was such a horrible thing to contemplate, where an invention of man was put to such a use...
The people who did these things to the child had to have trodden this path before many times before; had to have come up in an environment where inhibitions were ruthlessly suppressed in the interests of preserving a pure freedom from constraint and an almost total isolation from the strictures of society.
Such people cannot be victims because they would have to think of the rest of us as pigmies of no value and a child as a toy.
However, in the courtroom, we will hear that the child was whiney, always crying and being a nuisance, that it wet or fouled itself and that the mother wasn't there to discipline and look after it.. that the whanau, fueled by alcohol and P finally cracked and did things. And when asked why, they will hang their heads and mumble "Don't know". That basically finishes the conversation and allows the offender(s) to go back into their free world where they can maintain their high opinion of themselves.
JC
Zero Tolerance for violence.(3 strikes and its life).
ReplyDeleteCompulsory health checks for children on welfare.
Time limits for welfare.
Srticter criteria for sickness benefit. Zero tax on the first $15,000 earned. Income splitting for tax purposes on the lower paid Welfare payment criteria to be linked to regular attendance at plunket, GP, schools. Portion of payments to be direct credited to a nominated food store for food purchases only. Mandatory drug testing for previous offenders with children on welfare.
JC, I think you nailed it.
ReplyDeleteAnd Frederico's ideas would be a damn good start to cleaning this mess up. Which political party would have the principles and courage to do it though? Especially in the teeth of the left screaming about "rights" etc...
Forget the politicians to fix the child abuse problem that infects New Zealand as the problem with political sick jokes is that they get elected .
ReplyDeleteMuch to the detriment of children and the good name of the Nation child abuse looks set to remain the norm in a society with it's leaders living in pc utopian bliss .At least Australia is doing something about sordid child abuse but are NZ Maori doing - yeah right !!!
It is little wonder I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated by the socialists sufficiently to reason incorrectly .
God help this country and our vulnerable children !!
JC and frederico have nailed it. Unfortunately it is just more empty words because absolutely nothing will change with these animals unless change is forced upon them. This cannot happen whilst we are stuck with a loony left govt and a deeply flawed electoral system. What we really need is FPP and a hard man running the place. Force people to work for their daily bread and if they wont work starve the fuckers to death.
ReplyDeleteWhat Barnsley Bill said.
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