This is the sort of issue that most people don't really think much about, so that when it was first floated here in New Zealand, the reaction of a number of people would be to support it as it seemed harmless enough, letting two same sex get a marriage certificate that says they are married.
As time went on however, and the counter-arguments got into the mainstream and people who don't tend to take much notice of changing trends took the time to think about some of the issues, there has been a change in opinion. This is not a huge change, but it is significant because it shows that the arguments against same-sex marriage are more persuasive than the arguments for and that will be worrying the same-sex marriage supporters.
Passing the bill to redefine marriage will not make this issue go away, either. Like the anti-smacking legislation that goes against natural justice, redefining marriage will have all sorts of consequences which will increase opposition to it as time goes on.
One such consequence is the State interfering in what can be taught to children about their religion. Canada, which redefined marriage in 2003 through court decisions, and then formalised the arrangement in 2005 with a law change is now moving very strongly in the direction of active persecution of religious faith. Ten years is all is has taken for a federal territory in Canada to tell Catholic schools that the Catholic position on homosexuality is not to be taught in state funded Catholic schools. The following (from the Catechism) is most likely what the Yukon Education Minister said could not be taught to Catholic children in Catholic schools:
Canada is one of the countries to watch with regards to how they oppress those who oppose the redefinition of traditional morality. If it's happening now in Canada, it could happen here in New Zealand in five to ten years.
This has never been just about same-sex marriage, it's far bigger than that.
Just watch.
Related links: Shock poll over gay marriage bill ~ NZ Herald (vote in the online poll today)
Yukon Education Minister forbids Catholic schools to teach Catholic doctrine on homosexuality ~ LifeSiteNews
Other bloggers opinions: Marinating in radical leftist cultural Marxist indoctrination ~ PM of NZ
As time went on however, and the counter-arguments got into the mainstream and people who don't tend to take much notice of changing trends took the time to think about some of the issues, there has been a change in opinion. This is not a huge change, but it is significant because it shows that the arguments against same-sex marriage are more persuasive than the arguments for and that will be worrying the same-sex marriage supporters.
Public opposition to same-sex marriage has grown significantly since a law change to legalise it came before Parliament, a Herald DigiPoll survey shows.
Same-sex marriage campaigners blame scaremongering by religious groups for the increase in opposition, saying lobbying has intensified as the bill progresses through Parliament.
Opponents of gay marriage say the jump shows people are waking up to the negative social effects of changing the Marriage Act.
Asked what best fitted their view on marriage law, 48 per cent of those polled said marriage should remain between a man and a woman - an increase of 7.5 percentage points from a poll last June.
The number of people who supported a law change to allow same-sex couples to marry fell 4 percentage points in that time, but still outnumbered the opponents by a small margin.
The Marriage Amendment Bill is expected to return to Parliament tomorrow for the committee stages after easily passing its second reading by 77 votes to 44. It could become law next month.
Passing the bill to redefine marriage will not make this issue go away, either. Like the anti-smacking legislation that goes against natural justice, redefining marriage will have all sorts of consequences which will increase opposition to it as time goes on.
One such consequence is the State interfering in what can be taught to children about their religion. Canada, which redefined marriage in 2003 through court decisions, and then formalised the arrangement in 2005 with a law change is now moving very strongly in the direction of active persecution of religious faith. Ten years is all is has taken for a federal territory in Canada to tell Catholic schools that the Catholic position on homosexuality is not to be taught in state funded Catholic schools. The following (from the Catechism) is most likely what the Yukon Education Minister said could not be taught to Catholic children in Catholic schools:
Chastity and homosexualityAs the Catechism shows, Catholics are to accept those with homosexual inclinations with respect, compassion and sensitivity, but not to approve of homosexual acts which are intrinsically disordered. In other words, love the sinner but hate the sin. However, only full approval of homosexual activity will be accepted by the activists.
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
Canada is one of the countries to watch with regards to how they oppress those who oppose the redefinition of traditional morality. If it's happening now in Canada, it could happen here in New Zealand in five to ten years.
This has never been just about same-sex marriage, it's far bigger than that.
Just watch.
Related links: Shock poll over gay marriage bill ~ NZ Herald (vote in the online poll today)
Yukon Education Minister forbids Catholic schools to teach Catholic doctrine on homosexuality ~ LifeSiteNews
Other bloggers opinions: Marinating in radical leftist cultural Marxist indoctrination ~ PM of NZ
Louisa Wall has on more than one occasion mentioned the "young people" in this GM push. It struck me as odd as to why would she push this line. Is this due to the 'youth' of NZ who have been brain-washed at school and university that wants to dictate what is socially and morally acceptable to NZ? What about the 'older' folks, those who have worked their butts off to build this country? Does their opinion not matter? Evidently not! In some of dealings with the 'younger' brigade,I am no longer surprised at their inability to think much less put up any argument.After dumbing them down, no wonder then they will be the 'storm troops' of this attack on civilisation. They certainly have been primed on many fronts for this. Most certainly, the generations that preceded them have a lot to answer for. God defend NZ.
ReplyDeleteBtw, in the US, it appears similar with George Neumayer stating
"It is curious that bow-tied classicists are now taking their moral cues from college students. What repositories of wisdom youth have suddenly become" and further ".....this pathetic culture in which college students provide moral tutorials to their mothers and fathers on how tots don’t need mothers and fathers". Sad
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/03/27/on-the-smug-side-of-history