Glen Stinson was a convicted pedophile. He was let out.
He was then back in the courts facing new charges, and was freed on bail.
He was found in a bedroom with a young girl.
He was later murdered*:
Glen Stinson's body was found with severe head injuries in the driveway of a poultry farm near Foxton on July 28. He was on bail facing three charges of indecent assault and one of attempted rape on a girl under the age of 12. Stinson had several previous convictions for sex offending on young girls.
After we punish the people that murdered him, does the legal system extend to punishing the people that let him out again?
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Related Link: Three now charged with murder of pedophile
*This is the way I understand the situation. The court case is proceeding, so the details are light.
I am amazed that I never see xtian compassion shown here.
ReplyDeleteWhen will the follows of christ behave in a christlike manner?
I know they won't, becuase they always have the cop out "I am not perfect".
Stinson was convicted of a crime and was punished, according to the law.
Those who are acused of his murder, will if convicted, als be punished according to the law.
Under which law do you propose "...punishing the people that let him out again?"?
Sadly, attitudes like those expressed here are what often leads to reoffending. If there is no support, if there is no attempt at rehabilitation and integration, of course old behaviours will be resumed.
Can any of you walk like christ?
Rex Mundi
It's a difficult situation Zen.
ReplyDeleteJust about everyone who is imprisoned is going to be released.
I agree with Rex. What would Jesus do? There should be more community support and monitoring and less incarceration which is usually inefffective as the stats show.
Hi Rex. Stinson was quoted as having "several previous convictions", and we know he was punished for each of them, according to the law.
ReplyDeleteWe do not know what support he was offered, we do not know what support he had taken advantage of. I'm not arguing here that he should not have access to help in this way, and this was not part of the news story.
We also do not know if he was let out early, without having been rehabilitated, which is unfortunately a common occurrence, but let's presume the authorities believed him to be rehabilitated.
What we must now acknowledge (as far as the news reports say at least) is that he was OUT ON BAIL after re-offending AGAIN and facing NEW charges.
Was this not a strong signal, that with all his previous convictions, he needed more assistance, and that assistance had to be provided away from the open community?
You say I am not being compassionate. How compassionate is it to release a man into a community where he is demonstrably likely to re-offend, and he ends up dead and other people end up victims?
I think you mistake this post for a lack of compassion, but this post discusses something very different. My compassion could easily be demonstrated in other areas discussing rehabilitation, should I choose to post on that topic.
We do not have to forsake the safety of our children to "prove" compassion for the criminals by letting him out on bail with such a history.
The recidivism rate for paedophiles is somewhere around 80+%.
ReplyDeleteSo I'd be a damn sight less interested in rehabilitation and integration and compassion, than in protecting kids from these people.That surely must be the highest priority.
Compassion for the perpetrator is all very well, but when compassion and wishful thinking result in these people being let out into the community, then the community is entitled to demand that those who released him be held responsible for their decision.
KG, where do you get your stat from?
ReplyDeleteGarth McVicar? We all know he's wrong.
Rex Mundi
Hi Rex. Welcome back.
ReplyDeleteI don't know the rates off hand, but I found this from the Association for the treatment of Sexual Abusers (ATSA):
# Offenders, who seek out children to victimize by placing themselves in positions of trust, authority, and easy access to youngsters, can have hundreds of victims over the course of their lifetimes.
# Pedophiles, especially those who molest boys, or both boys and girls, are the sex offenders who have the highest recidivism (relapse) rates after incarceration and/or treatment.
The first issue is correctly categorizing the type of sexual offender, at the least distinguishing between a child molester and a pedophile, and then, when viewing studies, ensuring the numbers do not relate to all types of sexual offences. I'm not aware of many studies, but it sounds like this is an area you pay attention to and can point to some good studies?
One thing I thought as I reviewed a few studies, was that all the published numbers relied on *catching* the criminal and successfully prosecuting them. It seems that the nature of the crime includes the strange side effect that this all too often remains a hidden crime for some years.
Coming back to the case at hand, what do you think the likelihood this person was put into a situation, being found in the bedroom of a young girl, whilst out on bail for new charges, that he did fall into the recidivist demographic?
If the courts won't do the right thing, society will have to.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to see those crying for compassion for a pedophile cry the same amount of tears for the people who killed him or the victims of the pedophile.
If the pedophile wants compassion he shouldn't have gone to a childs bedroom. And it's telling that someone would still whine for compassion. You have to wonder what exactly a pedophile will have to do to a child and how long he'll have to do it for, before the well of pedophile-compassion will finally run dry.