Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Andrei Election 2011: Advancing Satan's agenda

From the Herald
A majority of voters support changing the law to allow gay couples to adopt children, according to the latest Herald-DigiPoll survey.

Labour and the Greens have pushed the rights of gay people as an election issue, but the National Party has sidelined them as not a priority.

Dear Labour and the Greens;
Dear Labour and the Greens;Have you considered the rights of the child? Do you not think that every boy has a right to a FATHER as well as a MOTHER and every girl the same.

It is sad that some boys lack the paternal role model and such boys are vulnerable, in particular they are vulnerable to parasitic older men - is that why your homosexual MPs are pushing this vile agenda - to groom children for their deviant mates and into their deviant sexuality?

We have been subject to years and years of pro homosexual and anti-family propaganda now - it originates with the Prince of Lies whose purpose for existence is to degrade humanity, made in the image of God, and to spread the seeds that grow into human unhappiness and misery.

Is that the master you choose to serve?

It would seem so.

Related reading: Illinois to Shut Down Religious Adoption Agencies Over Politics, Not Quality of Care

UPDATE from Lucia Maria: Hello readers of the Dim-Post, Crashing John Key's Handshake Facebook page, and the Green Party blog; please read this post by me next: Sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, on how most the sexual abuse was perpetrated by men on post-pubescent and teenage boys. You don't hear that in the media, do you?

18 comment(s):

Alex said...

Love thy neighbour and do not Let evil defeat you but defeat evil by doing good. I'm glad that your looking at the totality of Christanity to justify your bigotry.

Betty Blue said...

the left won't argue the issues, they just name-call, as always. Hatred for Christiamity and its timeless values. Same old.

Lucia Maria said...

True, Betty.

They also forget that love requires us to warn people when they're heading in the wrong direction. Yet they turn those warnings into a charge of bigotry, hoping to silence us.

Lucia Maria said...

The Thomas More Society are involved, that's good. Those guys are amazing. They don't always succeed, but they give it a really good go, giving lawyers a much better name!

Andrei said...

"Bigotry" Alex?

We all know that the ideal situation for a child to grow up in is with its mother and father.

And because the world is unfair and bad things happen for some this is not an option.

But surely if we seek to address this for those children we should look to providing an environment as close to the optimum as possible?

And whether you like it or not there are some things a male is better at than a female is and vice versa.

My question is why this radical thing is needed? How does it enhance child welfare?

And I can see how it has been deployed in places where it has come too pass - and that probably is a case of bigotry in action

leftrightout said...

Betty Blue said...
the left won't argue the issues, they just name-call, as always. Hatred for Christiamity and its timeless values. Same old.


So this is YOUR argument? Name calling yourself, no argument.

leftrightout said...

We have been subject to years and years of pro homosexual and anti-family propaganda now - it originates with the Prince of Lies whose purpose for existence is to degrade humanity, made in the image of God, and to spread the seeds that grow into human unhappiness and misery.

Is that the master you choose to serve?

Well, that's OK then, as there is no Satan I've got nothing to worry about.

Which master would you have me serve? The pyschotic stalker you call god?

MikeyKitty said...

Wtf, is this for real?

ZenTiger said...

Part One

Well this is certainly a provocative post Andrei.

I don't agree with your somewhat rhetorical question that the motivation of homosexual MPs is to create a market for pedophiles.

I presume you were being deliberately provocative?

Your opening line that you assert every child has a right to both a father and mother I agree with - this is the ideal we need to aspire to in society, and in the general, a traditional family is desired.

However, I believe that each circumstance for adoption would have to be weighed up carefully, as adoption agencies already do. People don't just front up and buy a pack of kids. What the ultimate criteria is for that, I am unsure, and happy to leave to the experienced, with good track records, such as the Catholic Adoption Agency cited in your link - the one shut down by a gay activist.

ZenTiger said...

Part Two:

I suspect though that defence of the traditional family will be swept aside as most commenters will read a lot more than you said into this letter.

You've also linked to a very disturbing story that will also get swept aside. It might be worth a separate post, because the actions of the state of Illinois represent an attack on freedom and an act of bigotry, all inspired by a single complaint from a gay activist.

There's some interesting irony with your post at play.

On one hand you will be hammered by the usual left-liberals and progressives which will read bigotry in your opinion.

But on the other hand, they will give a free pass against the point that a single gay activist has an opinion that shuts down an award winning Catholic adoption agency that was working successfully to find homes for orphans.

Does seem like children will be the victims of the gay activist requirement to shut down any adoption agency, no matter how successful, if it threatens their world view.

Andrei said...

I don't think I said pedophiles Zen - children do not suddenly loose their venerability and need for strong adult mentors at the age of consent.

And if a dangerous character takes advantage of that - well it can mean a boys life ruined before it even starts

ZenTiger said...

No, you didn't say pedophiles, but you said:

..is that why your homosexual MPs are pushing this vile agenda - to groom children for their deviant mates..

and ultimately, I would think that most MP activists (gay and straight) who are pushing for for male homosexuals to have the power to adopt are simply treating this as an agenda item for equalizing any relationship (and ultimately, also single men with the power to adopt) to the equivalent of traditional family.

If the family needs to be deconstructed and destroyed so it can be reconstructed, so be it.

ZenTiger said...

PS: Regarding your link - an interesting point to this tragic story is that the headline blazes "17 year old in court" and repeats that age, but the reality was this event happened over a year ago when the lad was 16, perhaps recently turned that age.

The gay guy was known to be attracted to youth, and as an off duty cop, plying young men with alcohol, he needed the book thrown at him, but it looks like he's escaped that particular problem.

Lucia Maria said...

Tracking down these Facebook incoming links is a little harder, but I've got one.

Lucia Maria said...

Hello readers of the Dim-Post, Crashing John Key's Handshake Facebook page, and the Green Party blog; please read this post by me next: Sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, on how most the sexual abuse was perpetrated by men on post-pubescent and teenage boys. You don't hear that in the media, do you?

Sam said...

Do you have numbers to back up your claims about boys raised without men in the house being more likely to be abused?

Andrei said...

For example Sam
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, National Health Interview Survey (Hyattsville, MD, 1988).

Its about children, boys and girls

In girls teenage pregnancy is highly correlated with fatherlessness and in 70% of the cases the sire of their fatherless child is not one of their own age but an adult male.

Let me tell you why - sexual predators seek out the vulnerable and to exploit.

When something has gone awry for one of my kids I know it instantly and an unsavoury adult sniffing around my kids would get the message pronto, believe me (they are old enough to look after themslves now anyway) but a predator would spot this instantly and back off anyway - creeps seek out the vulnerable - obviously

Sam said...

"Highly correlated" is not a number.

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